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<blockquote data-quote="Frankie" data-source="post: 22422" data-attributes="member: 13"><p>My first recommendation is that if you can't handle a strong AI program, choose a breed other than Angus. A good Angus bull will sell, especially if he has performance info and good EPDs, whether he's AI sired or not. But half your calf crop will be heifers. In consignment sales, pasture bred Angus heifers will be discounted several hundred dollars to an AI sired heifer. I don't believe you'll find that in some other breeds. There are some pretty good markets for straight bred Angus heifers, if you can find one. The OK Cattlemens Assn puts on a replacement female sale every fall. The high selling lots are usually straight bred Angus bred to low BW Angus bulls. </p><p></p><p>I don't think size of your herd is as important as the quality. We're not a large operation by any means and getting smaller every year. A lot of commercial calves have been selling right off their dam at $1 for 5-600 lbs.(which is considerably more than in a lot of past years). I can put $600 into a weaned bull calf for AI certs, registration, development, transportation, etc., and sell him for 3-4 times as much as he'd sell as a weaned calf. We've never been involved in the show business part of Angus, but there's a lot of money to be made there, too. And a small herd can do well if they work in that direction.</p><p></p><p>There are several New Design bulls available. We started using the first one we saw, B/R New Design 036 as a young bull, younger than we usually use a bull. He has been very good to us. We used some New Design 878 the last two years. Overall, I'm not as pleased with him as 036, but we'll continue to use him some. The 1407 calves seem to be doing well on performance tests, too. Frankly, I wait a long time to use a bull that's highly promoted by show operations. I may have erred in 1407's case; we'll see. </p><p></p><p>Hope this helped. If not, feel free to ask more questions. Or register and send me a Private Message (PM).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frankie, post: 22422, member: 13"] My first recommendation is that if you can't handle a strong AI program, choose a breed other than Angus. A good Angus bull will sell, especially if he has performance info and good EPDs, whether he's AI sired or not. But half your calf crop will be heifers. In consignment sales, pasture bred Angus heifers will be discounted several hundred dollars to an AI sired heifer. I don't believe you'll find that in some other breeds. There are some pretty good markets for straight bred Angus heifers, if you can find one. The OK Cattlemens Assn puts on a replacement female sale every fall. The high selling lots are usually straight bred Angus bred to low BW Angus bulls. I don't think size of your herd is as important as the quality. We're not a large operation by any means and getting smaller every year. A lot of commercial calves have been selling right off their dam at $1 for 5-600 lbs.(which is considerably more than in a lot of past years). I can put $600 into a weaned bull calf for AI certs, registration, development, transportation, etc., and sell him for 3-4 times as much as he'd sell as a weaned calf. We've never been involved in the show business part of Angus, but there's a lot of money to be made there, too. And a small herd can do well if they work in that direction. There are several New Design bulls available. We started using the first one we saw, B/R New Design 036 as a young bull, younger than we usually use a bull. He has been very good to us. We used some New Design 878 the last two years. Overall, I'm not as pleased with him as 036, but we'll continue to use him some. The 1407 calves seem to be doing well on performance tests, too. Frankly, I wait a long time to use a bull that's highly promoted by show operations. I may have erred in 1407's case; we'll see. Hope this helped. If not, feel free to ask more questions. Or register and send me a Private Message (PM). [/QUOTE]
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