Please tell me the difference

[wbvs58]

I read a lot about Bio fuels these days, how airlines are looking to use as much aviation bio fuel as they can source to be able to sprout their good citizen environmental credentials. My take of this is that they still burn fuel to propel the aircraft and the carbon and biproducts still go into the atmosphere.
Now how is this different to our cows? We grow grass to feed our cows just like grain and sugarcane is grown for biofuel. Our system produces a high quality protein to feed the world and our bi product is the demonised methane that is a short term "green house " gas.

Ken

 

[sstterry]

I read a lot about Bio fuels these days, how airlines are looking to use as much aviation bio fuel as they can source to be able to sprout their good citizen environmental credentials. My take of this is that they still burn fuel to propel the aircraft and the carbon and biproducts still go into the atmosphere.
Now how is this different to our cows? We grow grass to feed our cows just like grain and sugarcane is grown for biofuel. Our system produces a high quality protein to feed the world and our bi product is the demonised methane that is a short term "green house " gas.

Ken

Because cows are "woke".

 

[Travlr]

I read a lot about Bio fuels these days, how airlines are looking to use as much aviation bio fuel as they can source to be able to sprout their good citizen environmental credentials. My take of this is that they still burn fuel to propel the aircraft and the carbon and biproducts still go into the atmosphere.
Now how is this different to our cows? We grow grass to feed our cows just like grain and sugarcane is grown for biofuel. Our system produces a high quality protein to feed the world and our bi product is the demonised methane that is a short term "green house " gas.

Ken

Not only that... but there are naturally evolved prokaryotes we call "methanotrophs" (you can google them) that digest naturally occurring methane from ruminants. By digesting methane they turn it into the components of a human healthy atmosphere.

The only problems with bovine generated methane is when cattle are concentrated in feedlots where manure accumulates and is never delt with.

 

[Dave]

Not only that... but there are naturally evolved prokaryotes we call "methanotrophs" (you can google them) that digest naturally occurring methane from ruminants. By digesting methane they turn it into the components of a human healthy atmosphere.

The only problems with bovine generated methane is when cattle are concentrated in feedlots where manure accumulates and is never delt with.

Just where are these feedlots where "manure accumulates and is never dealt with"? Every one I have ever been to it is hauled off and spread on crop land for fertilizer. And this is done on a regular basis. There are some pretty strict laws in that regard.

 

[Travlr]

Just where are these feedlots where "manure accumulates and is never dealt with"? Every one I have ever been to it is hauled off and spread on crop land for fertilizer. And this is done on a regular basis. There are some pretty strict laws in that regard.

Send pics... I don't believe I've ever seen a feedlot without accumulated manure.

The sale barn cleans their pens once a year and the manure goes for fertilizer... but they still have an accumulation. Chicken house get cleaned too, but there is still residue in the soil and perimeter. It's not like they are cleaned by a maid taking pride in her work. And often a feedlot cleans one enclosure while others are going to be cleaned at other times over the year.

 

[Dave]

All the sale yards I go to clean things every week. Is it absolutely prefect no. But they do get a very high percentage. Feedlot don't get cleaned daily but it is done often. Not doing will violate some laws under the clean water act plus it is not good for animal health. My full time job for 23 years was daily working with dairies and big chicken farms addressing their manure management.

 

[mwj]

Not only that... but there are naturally evolved prokaryotes we call "methanotrophs" (you can google them) that digest naturally occurring methane from ruminants. By digesting methane they turn it into the components of a human healthy atmosphere.

The only problems with bovine generated methane is when cattle are concentrated in feedlots where manure accumulates and is never delt with.

''Never delt with'' was your choice of words. Please tell us where and how many of those ''feed lots'' are located. Do- gooders spread enough lies on there own without the bots picking info from posts here to use.

 

[Travlr]

All the sale yards I go to clean things every week. Is it absolutely prefect no. But they do get a very high percentage. Feedlot don't get cleaned daily but it is done often. Not doing will violate some laws under the clean water act plus it is not good for animal health. My full time job for 23 years was daily working with dairies and big chicken farms addressing their manure management.

I'm not saying they don't try... but show me a picture of a feedlot that doesn't have a pile of manure inside some of their pens, and probably most of them?

 

[Travlr]

''Never delt with'' was your choice of words. Please tell us where and how many of those ''feed lots'' are located. Do- gooders spread enough lies on there own without the bots picking info from posts here to use.

Ya know... it seems like a lot of people think it's either one way or the other and there is no in between. There are pros and cons to any issue you can name, and degrees of concern. Feedlots accumulate manure. That's a given. your definition of "dealt with" may be different than mine. I've never seen a feedlot that didn't have accumulated manure. If you have... please show us an example.

 

[mwj]

Ya know... it seems like a lot of people think it's either one way or the other and there is no in between. There are pros and cons to any issue you can name, and degrees of concern. Feedlots accumulate manure. That's a given. your definition of "dealt with" may be different than mine. I've never seen a feedlot that didn't have accumulated manure. If you have... please show us an example.

So what is the alternate use of the word ''never''.

 

[Travlr]

So what is the alternate use of the word ''never''.

LOL... You just really have a hard time being flexible, don't you? Understanding must be tedious.

Never... in this context... is a function of how well the job of cleanup is done. You may see it as being done well when a guy on a tractor scoops 90% of the accumulation out to be distributed on fields. I might see it as "never" when they leave that last 10%.

So now, what's your next quibble? Let's get into some more mundane stuff so we can find fault rather than understanding. It's just so entertaining.

 

[mwj]

Words have meanings. Without that they are just random letters. Could you have a worthwhile discussion with someone if you had to guess the meaning of there words?

 

[Travlr]

Words have meanings. Without that they are just random letters. Could you have a worthwhile discussion with someone if you had to guess the meaning of there words?

I tend to read things for their meaning. So yeah, words have specific meaning, but the context generally gives me a pretty decent clue to what people are saying. You may see words as precise in and of themselves, but I tend to see how they are being used and see variables.

The word "run" has 645 definitions, "set" has 430, and "go" has 368. And on and on.

Being pedantic may work for you. That's great if that's how your mind works. Sometimes it works for me. But I prefer to be more perceptive. At least I try to be...

 

[greybeard]

LOL... You just really have a hard time being flexible,

Semper Gumby...'Always Flexible'

 

[Travlr]

Words have meanings. Without that they are just random letters. Could you have a worthwhile discussion with someone if you had to guess the meaning of there words?

I understand what you are saying... regardless of the words you are misusing.

 

[simme]

Gift ideas for this year - Dictionary and mirror.