Pete Rose

[dun]

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/s ... ose/nrkJy/

 

[JMJ Farms]

Pete Rose messed up. HeII who among us hasn't. He was punished. He served his time. Doesn't change his stats and career accomplishments. To me that's what the HOF is about. They need to open the doors at Cooperstown and WELCOME him in with open arms.

 

[jltrent]

We he dies he will get in and not until then. It is not going to happen.

 

[Son of Butch]

We he dies he will get in and not until then. It is not going to happen.

Correct. He has not served his time.... it's a lifetime ban. He will be inducted posthumously.
He actually gets more attention in his lifetime by not being inducted than had he been a 2nd ballot inductee.

 

[Alan]

I thought this was going to be about Rose throwing a fit because a Japenese MLB player wants to include his hits during his time playing in Japan. His combined hits in MLB and Japan would surpass Rose's hit record.....One of Rose's comments was "why not throw in his high school hits also".

Back on topic, agreed he's in when he's dead.

 

[TexasBred]

Wonder how many hits he would have gotten if he had to face a pitcher throwing 95 mph or higher fast balls almost every day?? Guys that threw 90 mph were few and far between when he played. If Pete would have owned up to what he did instead of lieing about it for years and years he would probably already be in the HOF.

 

[cowmilker]

He's being inducted into the Reds HOF this weekend.

 

[JMJ Farms]

TB you have a point. I'm not sure if it would have mattered. Maybe. Maybe not. IDK. I would like to think he was such a good hitter bc of his work ethic, dedication, talent, and the "drive" to be the best. But that's only a theory. Heck of a hitter either way.

 

[inyati13]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

 

[bball]

MLB IS actually doing him a favor by keeping him out. Every year, he is talked about for assorted reasons; not the least of which is HOF. If MLB inducted him, he would fade from annual conversation into baseball history-and an infrequent topic.

 

[TexasBred]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

I would take Cal Ripken, Jr. over him any day of the week.

 

[JMJ Farms]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

I would take Cal Ripken, Jr. over him any day of the week.

You just lost the game too TB :lol2:

 

[callmefence]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

Most likely his drive was at least partially due to the amphetamines he gobbled down when he wasn't gambling or lying.

 

[inyati13]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

Most likely his drive was at least partially due to the amphetamines he gobbled down when he wasn't gambling or lying.

HeII you could say that about any athlete. Professional or college. I don't think morals are a part of their repertoire. Lying, cheating, gambling, womanizing, etc. seems to go with the trade. Sports in general is disgusting. Regardless of his character, ethics or drug use, the man demonstrated a passion for performance.

When I was young and didn't know better, I enjoyed watching the drama of his game. Other than that, my post is rhetorical.

 

[john250]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

I would take Cal Ripken, Jr. over him any day of the week.

And your team would LOSE.

 

[TexasBred]

I admired his effort. Relentless drive to win. His passion. Forget the hits. The man had more drive than any athlete in any sport. And he did it everyday regardless of the stakes. No one pursued a pitch like he did. From the moment it left the pitcher's hand. He was on it like flies on shyt. Who cares if he gets in the HOF. You cannot take his image away. No one had his intensity.

I would take Cal Ripken, Jr. over him any day of the week.

And your team would LOSE.

YOu know we really might but at least Cal would be signing autographs before and after the game and not placing bets. Guess Cal should have played 24 years like Rose and swapped those 400+ homeruns for singles.
When Rose's longevity is taken out of the picture, as it is through average figures, Rose's rankings look like this:

Batting average...Not in top 100
On base percentage...Not in top 100
Slugging average....Not in top 100
OPS....Not in top 100

 

[True Grit Farms]

Easy now TB, those Pete Rose head first slides were awesome.

 

[inyati13]

Easy now TB, those Pete Rose head first slides were awesome.

TGF gets it but some of you guys don't. Screw the statistics. F÷×k the HOF. And only Nuns worry about the morals of sports figures. Sports is entertainment. And if you could not find entertainment in how Rose played baseball, then take up Golf.

 

[john250]

Rose was an all-star as a second baseman, a third baseman, a first baseman and an outfielder. If we were choosing teams, I'd draft Pete first and give you the next 9 picks to take Ripken or whoever before I picked again. After 162 games I'll be ahead, comfortably. (No disrespect to Mr. Ripken.) Pete is a flawed man, certainly, but he is a hall-of-famer.

 

[TexasBred]

Easy now TB, those Pete Rose head first slides were awesome.

Oh yeah. As Derek Jeter said "it doesn't take much talent to try hard".