Pasture Planning

[skyhightree1]

I am planning what to plant in august in my pastures. I have narrowed it down to a couple different things but I think I will do oats and crimson clover this year or rye and oats and crimson. My pastures are fescue and orchard with cinnamon and ladino clover. What mix would you plant ? What varieties of oats do you all plant? I generally plant Harrison.

Edit: For winter pastures

 

[Nesikep]

I plant common oats.. I've been looking at beardless barley too, legumes seem to do better with barley than oats. Around here not much other than DC red clover is worth bothering with.. crimson and alsike clovers don't grow AT ALL here... My typical mix is 15lb alfalfa, 1-2 lb timothy, 4 lb DC red clover, and a bunch of OG per acre (can't remember how much)

 

[skyhightree1]

I envy you Nesi for being able to grow alfalfa ... I have tried and tried...

 

[Douglas]

I added rye to my oats and it saved me in a very cold winter last year.

 

[skyhightree1]

I added rye to my oats and it saved me in a very cold winter last year.

Rye grass or Cereal rye

 

[pricefarm]

I had good luck with wheat last year. Got some grazing in early winter then the first of spring it really took off and I had excellent early grazing.

 

[bigbull338]

sky if your planting old wore out ground then whwat and rye grass is what you need.

 

[skyhightree1]

PF- I have grazed wheat before and it does grow well and provide good grazing that is always an option. I may try different things in different places.BB-oh no its on good pasture just I want to try a different combination and see how it goes.

 

[JSCATTLE]

I'm going to plant plain old gulf rye grass . It's too wet in the winter here to disc the ground . The rye grass does ok and the sod helps keep the footing solid . I wish I had a no till drill but can't see spending the money to buy one

 

[ddd75]

i was thinking of the same combo.. jerry oats + crimson + rye grass.


I can rent a nice pasture drill for 10/ac

 

[highgrit]

Sky, I put wheat in the low places, and winter Rye and Rye grass mixed with clover. That's for the cows, for the deer and cows I plant oats, and rye grass, clover and purple top turnips.

 

[shaz]

I have never been able to get any red clover to hold up under controlled grazing.
Have any of you?

 

[skyhightree1]

Sky, I put wheat in the low places, and winter Rye and Rye grass mixed with clover. That's for the cows, for the deer and cows I plant oats, and rye grass, clover and purple top turnips.

Sounds like a good mix ... I plant purple top turnips in my food plots but never in pasture. Do the cows eat the turnips before they get any size ?

 

[Douglas]

I added rye to my oats and it saved me in a very cold winter last year.

Rye grass or Cereal rye

cereal

 

[skyhightree1]

That works good too. Douglas how is your weather down there? Getting any rain?

 

[Fire Sweep Ranch]

I have never been able to get any red clover to hold up under controlled grazing.
Have any of you?

Our red clover is outstanding. We planted a field, about 4 years ago, in red clover, orchard and rye grass. There is now more red clover than when we planted, and not much evidence of the orchard or rye. We will likely replant that field this fall, but I am not planning on putting in any red clover again! Once it is established, it is hard to get rid of, which I like! I will no till drill in some rye grass again, and maybe some endophyte free fescue. We also rent the drill, from the extension. Pretty cheap, and we have used it several times.
Speaking of drilling, last fall we no-till drilled about 20 acres of Bar Optima and red clover into an existing fescue field. My goal was to dilute the hot fescue, and I can not afford the time to kill a pasture off completely to replant a field in endophyte free fescue. The fields look great this year, but there really is no way to tell the difference in the hot fescue versus the Bar Optima. I can see the clover, so I know it worked. They are predicting this year to be abnormally high in our area for the endophyte, since it has been so wet and humid. I brush hogged a pasture I am rotating to a few days ago (it was grazed in April, and had already thrown up seed heads since it was grazed). The cutter was loaded with fescue seed, and I could see the infected seeds (they look like mouse droppings). At least the pasture was reseeded with the cutting!

 

[skyhightree1]

Ok think in one pasture im going to put winter wheat and some crimson clover
One pasture SS 7630 oats and winter wheat and crimson or maybe the oats winter rye and crimson... What do you all think? I would see it too heavily because I have a good fescue base. Thoughts? Opinions?

 

[fenceman]

Ok think in one pasture im going to put winter wheat and some crimson clover
One pasture SS 7630 oats and winter wheat and crimson or maybe the oats winter rye and crimson... What do you all think? I would see it too heavily because I have a good fescue base. Thoughts? Opinions?

For use oats and ryegrass is what I prefer. The oats provide good late fall into winter grazing. The ryegrass comes on in early March and can produce a lot of grazing . Giving the warm season grass time to get going good.

Oats and ryegrass , I would say around Nov.1 last year

 

[skyhightree1]

looks good... that's probably what I will do and put in crimson clover too.. that's typically what I do anyhow for hay lol

 

[skyhightree1]