Panting
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I luv herfrds
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If you can hear it and it sounds raspy there is a chance that it could be pnuemonia.
Have you called the vet yet? That is always the best thing to do first.
We have always treated pnuemonia with LA-200.
Have you called the vet yet? That is always the best thing to do first.
We have always treated pnuemonia with LA-200.
The vet was out here today, but it was for another calf. I was just wondering about this one. He breaths fast like hes panting, or like hes out of breath. The thing is, is he does it all the time. Every now and then he will hang his tounge out, I mean just like a dog. I have LA-200, but thats for Bacterial Pneumonia, it could be viral. Think I should give it to him anyway? Or maybe some penicilin?
I luv herfrds
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How long has he been like this?
Another question. Is it really hot where you are right now?
Another question. Is it really hot where you are right now?
Its hot during the day, but he has plenty of water and he drinks like crazy. About 80. Hes been like this for maybe a couple of days. I think I am going to give him so Penecilin here in about 30mins. If that dont help by tomorrow night then I will have to give him something for Viral Pneumonia.
I luv herfrds
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I would still call the vet back to look at him, but the penecilin won't hurt anything.
Keep a close eye on him. The sooner you catch that stuff the better.
Good luck.
Keep a close eye on him. The sooner you catch that stuff the better.
Good luck.
The Vet gave her some Baytril I think it was for the anitbiotic. He said just give her 4cc's of Penicilin every other day and then on the 28th I am supposed to give her another dose of the antibiotic he left me and thats it. He said stuff like nuflor and baytril dont cure the pneumonia they just help fight it kinda. Along with the vitamins and penicilin, you just have to hope they can fight it off. The thing is we caught it in her very early so I am hoping she dont die. The holstein on the other hand, idk, I called him back and he told me to give him 5-6cc's pencilin every other day and give him an antibiotic that you put in his feed. I am going to get some tomorrow. I already gave him his vitamins, so thats all I can do. This stuff is very complicated but if you think about it, its not really all that bad. As far as pneumonia is concerned theres no medicine that will just cure it in a blink of an eye. All you can do is give them Vitamin A-D, B Complex, a good Antibiotic w/ a combination of penicilin and then hope you caught it in time. But I am rabling on and on about stuff people probably already know. :roll:
Mongoose":2d2q7di5 said:
Baytril, Nuflor, Micatil, tetracyclines, and penicillin are all antibiotics, and antibiotics are only effective against bacterial illnesses - they won't touch a viral infection. With viral pneumonia all you can do is watch for secondary infections, treat them as they present, provide supportive care, and pray.
Unless your heifer has developed a secondary infection as a result of the viral pneumonia dragging her immune system down, you're wasting money, increasing her stress(and further deplenishing her immune system) by handling her for treatment, and destroying the flora in her digestive tract by treating with antibiotics. Your vet should know this.
Mongoose":edztd19j said:
Vitamins wouldn't hurt - they help bolster the immune system and stimulate appetite. Make sure clean, fresh water is available, provide shelter so her temperature is not driven up by the sun, watch closely for new symptoms so you can quickly identify secondary infections and get the jump on them, keep the food fresh so she will be more tempted to eat it. Given the antibiotics this heifer has already had, Probios would definitely be in order to get her digestive tract back where it should be. Nuflor, Baytril, Penicillin are antibiotics - not supportive care. Administering them when there is not a need is a waste of money, and destroys flora in the digestive tract - flora that is needed to properly digest food, and help maintain the immune system.
To add to what msscamp said... there is a time when antibiotics are used when combatting a virus, and it's for the purpose of preventing secondary bacterial infections that may appear due to the weakened immune system. The antibiotics are never for the purpose of fighting a virus, because they won't do a lick of good.
Supportive care... an example would be if you have a calf with scours caused by a virus, supportive therapy can include probiotics, IV/SQ fluids, electrolytes, pain meds, vitamins/minerals (with caution), that sort of thing.
Supportive care... an example would be if you have a calf with scours caused by a virus, supportive therapy can include probiotics, IV/SQ fluids, electrolytes, pain meds, vitamins/minerals (with caution), that sort of thing.
Well also there is no way you can tell if its viral or bacterial. I am just going to do what the vet said and see what happens. Also, I cleaned her feed pan and water bucket and am keeping her in the barn in the shade. Shes has really clean fresh water and fresh hay always available. A nice clean pen and disinfected before I put her in it. Sound like I am doing everything right? lol
Well the steer is like I said, breaths fast like hes out of breath all the time. The heifer doesnt show that much signs of anything, but the vet listened to her lungs and everything and said she had pneumonia.
