Only one nut

[Fred Belknap]

Had a bull calf born last week and was going to band him but could only find one nut. I have checked him twice and still nothing. Was wondering how long to wait? I won't band him unless the other testicle comes down. Around here they call them stags and they don't bring much at the market.
Fred
edited 9/12/08 I checked him again today and I could feel the nut but couldn't get a band on it. I wait another week and check him again if I can catch him.

 

[dun]

We had one a couple of years ago and the nut hadn;t dropped by the time he was 2 months old. While the vet was preg checking had him castrate him. Wasn;t nearly as simple a process to cut inside the scrotum and fish the other nut down as I had assumed it would be.

 

[bigbull338]

sometimes the 2nd nut never dropps drown.i know id never keep a 1 nutted bull as a breeder.but i know a high powered reg holstein breeder that would sale a 1 nutted bull as a sound breeder.an over the years he had 4 or 5 of them.the sad thing is that bull would bring $1500 to $1800.

 

[randiliana]

Sometimes they will drop, but in my experience that doesn't happen often. Your best bet would be to get the vet out to castrate him.

 

[bigbull338]

sometimes the 2nd nut never dropps drown.i know id never keep a 1 nutted bull as a breeder.but i know a high powered reg holstein breeder that would sale a 1 nutted bull as a sound breeder.an over the years he had 4 or 5 of them.the sad thing is that bull would bring $1500 to $1800.

Sounds to me like he is not a very reputable breeder. I would assume he had a few po'd customers?

oh he was a very reputable breeder.miled reg holsteins for over 50yrs.an he had the very best genetics money could buy in his herd.he sold bulls here 2x a year for over 30yrs.bringing in 12 to 15 bulls at a time.

 

[TexasBred]

If he's fertile, breed cattle and you get calves, what's the problem??

 

[Engler]

If he's fertile, breed cattle and you get calves, what's the problem??

The problem is it is highly heritable. Cryporchids will sire chrporchids then as opposed to having the vet out to cut one, you have to have them out to cut a bunch. Other option is to not have the vet out and take a beating on a whole bunch of stags at the sale barn. If you're feeding them yourself then you have all the attitude problems of having a bunch of young bulls running around with the exception of bred females. I don't know about you but I think it's a problem that needs to be handled before it gets to be a bigger issue.

 

[KNERSIE]

If he's fertile, breed cattle and you get calves, what's the problem??

I assume you were joking, so I'll just laugh at your comment :lol: :clap:

 

[TexasBred]

If he's fertile, breed cattle and you get calves, what's the problem??

I assume you were joking, so I'll just laugh at your comment :lol: :clap:

I heard that.

Used a holstein bull with only one testicle that descended....had great calves. Didnt' care about the bull calves as they were all sold anyway.

 

[KNERSIE]

Used a holstein bull with only one testicle that descended....had great calves. Didnt' care about the bull calves as they were all sold anyway.

It's still a genetic defect. Call me an olde school dinosaur, but in my book should bulls with genetic defects not be allowed to carry their genetics forward to future generations.

There is also too high a correlation between udder shape and attachment and scrotum shape and attachment to justify it for me too take the risk. (this is strictly based on my experience and not on research papers)

But it might just be the difference between breeders and multipliers coming to the fore again....

 

[Keren]

We had one a couple of years ago and the nut hadn;t dropped by the time he was 2 months old. While the vet was preg checking had him castrate him. Wasn;t nearly as simple a process to cut inside the scrotum and fish the other nut down as I had assumed it would be.

Lot of the time the testicle is actually located up at the kidney, so getting the vet to surgically castrate isnt always an option.

 

[TexasBred]

TN....was it the cow's fault the calf had one testicle or the bull's?? In my case it didn't matter. Although I didn't use bulls long on my dairy I did use the bull with one testicle with no consequences. He was a BlackStar bull and worked great.

 

[mnmtranching]

Y'all make it sound like it's common to have a 1 nutter, never had one.

 

[KNERSIE]

Y'all make it sound like it's common to have a 1 nutter, never had one.

I bet if we allow the one nut bulls to breed it will soon become alot more common. Same goes for any other genetic defect.

My neighbour used a one nutted holstein bull a few years ago, looking at his cow herd now that bull (or the others that he used) didn't have a very positive effect on his herd, so there was no justification in using him in hindsight.