OMG -- WHEN WILL THEY LEARN TO IDENTIFY THE TARGET??

[Kathie in Thorp]

Oregon -- Somebody shot/killed because someone else thought he was a bear. I hope that shooter gets charged. This is basic hunter ed stuff!

http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-hiker-mis ... 16549.html

 

[Caustic Burno]

Oregon -- Somebody shot/killed because someone else thought he was a bear. I hope that shooter gets charged. This is basic hunter ed stuff!

http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-hiker-mis ... 16549.html

I agree he should have identified his target that is basic 101, the other guy hiking through country during hunting season should have been wearing blaze orange IMO. I even wear it on my own land never know what idiot is out there.

 

[Kathie in Thorp]

HUNTERS are required to wear Blaze Orange in the field, depending on the season (not archers -- some states, not muzzleloader guys) -- but not passers-by/walkers/hikders. There is no excuse for this, in my humble opinion. The shooter didn't identify his target. He shot at something dark-colored, hoping it was a bear.

 

[Caustic Burno]

HUNTERS are required to wear Blaze Orange in the field, depending on the season (not archers -- some states, not muzzleloader guys) -- but not passers-by/walkers/hikders. There is no excuse for this, in my humble opinion. The shooter didn't identify his target. He shot at something dark-colored, hoping it was a bear.

You just made my point if hunters are required to wear it to prevent accident's everyone should be.

 

[Isomade]

HUNTERS are required to wear Blaze Orange in the field, depending on the season (not archers -- some states, not muzzleloader guys) -- but not passers-by/walkers/hikders. There is no excuse for this, in my humble opinion. The shooter didn't identify his target. He shot at something dark-colored, hoping it was a bear.

You just made my point if hunters are required to wear it to prevent accident's everyone should be.

I agree CB, I wear it during hunting season even on my own property. Too many idiots out there.

 

[Caustic Burno]

There is no way I would walk the wood's on land I own or lease during deer season without blaze orange. On a 6000 acre lease that I am the president of we require everyone during season to wear orange on the way in and out to the stand. If you want to squirrel hunt on the lease you are required to wear orange. You get caught without your orange your off.
In Texas orange is not required on private lands.

I agree that the shooter bears the responsibilty the person shot wasn't excercising good judgement running around in the woods during hunting season.

 

[Kathie in Thorp]

I do not disagree that wearing orange, for everybody, is a good idea. I've braided orange into horses' manes and tails during hunting season. Our cows won't put up with that.

But that's not the point here. This was a hiker/walker, shot because the hunter didn't identify his target. Hiking/walking trails are not closed off during hunting seasons, and they shouldn't be. There are more hikers/walkers than there are hunters in some areas out here. This type of incident is the biggest, hugest sin in hunting! A misplaced/haphazard wounding shot at a valid target, without follow-up, is the second-worst sin, followed up by poaching.

 

[3waycross]

I am waiting to hear that someone around here shot a guy off a mountain bike thinking he was a bear. Those a$$es ride every trail right thru the best Elk country around here with no orange at all and a lot of them do it just to screw up the hunting. One of these days the crap is gonna hit the fan pretty hard in these mountains.

 

[Kathie in Thorp]

I am waiting to hear that someone around here shot a guy off a mountain bike thinking he was a bear. Those a$$es ride every trail right thru the best Elk country around here with no orange at all and a lot of them do it just to screw up the hunting. One of these days the crap is gonna hit the fan pretty hard in these mountains.

3Way -- I understand your angst! We don't have alot of that trail sabotage vs. hunters over here, but I'm pretty sure it happens a bit west of us. Still . . . be sure of your target -- that it's not an idjit vs. the bear or deer or elk you were really hunting. That's the only point I'm pushing.

 

[dun]

I do not disagree that wearing orange, for everybody, is a good idea. I've braided orange into horses' manes and tails during hunting season. Our cows won't put up with that.

But that's not the point here. This was a hiker/walker, shot because the hunter didn't identify his target. Hiking/walking trails are not closed off during hunting seasons, and they shouldn't be. There are more hikers/walkers than there are hunters in some areas out here. This type of incident is the biggest, hugest sin in hunting! A misplaced/haphazard wounding shot at a valid target, without follow-up, is the second-worst sin, followed up by poaching.

Belive it or not, not every one is aware of when a hunting season is open. Particularly someone visiting from another state.

 

[3waycross]

I do not disagree that wearing orange, for everybody, is a good idea. I've braided orange into horses' manes and tails during hunting season. Our cows won't put up with that.

But that's not the point here. This was a hiker/walker, shot because the hunter didn't identify his target. Hiking/walking trails are not closed off during hunting seasons, and they shouldn't be. There are more hikers/walkers than there are hunters in some areas out here. This type of incident is the biggest, hugest sin in hunting! A misplaced/haphazard wounding shot at a valid target, without follow-up, is the second-worst sin, followed up by poaching.

Belive it or not, not every one is aware of when a hunting season is open. Particularly someone visiting from another state.

Maybe so but it sure is fun being run over on a trail by some spandex wearin SOB on a bike that rattles and makes a ton of noise when you have climbed for 3 hours in the dark to be in a certain spot at dawn, and the ahole comes in from the top of the pass on the trail and runs everything out of your whole drainage with that crap. Then laughs as he goes by. Come to think of it I seem to remember some trip wires made of 30lb Mason leader being strung across some trails last year during muzzloader season. They sure will flip a Mountain bike over in a hurry.

Not by me of course :cowboy:

 

[Isomade]

That would just pizz me off! The wire sounds like a great idea....not that I'd ever do that either :cowboy:

 

[Caustic Burno]

I do not disagree that wearing orange, for everybody, is a good idea. I've braided orange into horses' manes and tails during hunting season. Our cows won't put up with that.

But that's not the point here. This was a hiker/walker, shot because the hunter didn't identify his target. Hiking/walking trails are not closed off during hunting seasons, and they shouldn't be. There are more hikers/walkers than there are hunters in some areas out here. This type of incident is the biggest, hugest sin in hunting! A misplaced/haphazard wounding shot at a valid target, without follow-up, is the second-worst sin, followed up by poaching.

Here is where we disagree, I think everyone having to wear orange is exactly the point. Times have changed thirty years ago if you ran into someone in the woods it was your neighbor. Nobody was upset you told each other good luck as you were hunting to put something on the table. People don't use good judgement as much today.
Today when deer season opens hunters pour in from the city in a 50,000 dollar truck pulling a 10,000 dollar ATV in designer camo. Now they have a lot of money invested in camo and deer lease they are going to shoot something be it a possum, coon, coyote or a deer to talk about when they get back to work. Everyone of them will be toting the lastest high powered rifle that will shoot half a mile, when all you need here in the thicket is a shotgun.
I am not excusing the idiot for not knowing his target. But is seems to me the way your hunting is set up it is an accident waiting to happen anyway mixing hunters and recreational hiker and bikers seems like a bad recipe.
But then again we are not ate up with the Federal Government owning most of our states and hunting lands.

 

[Anonymous]

I was hunting a buddies farm in missouri about 10 years ago with him and one of his friends. The 3 of us were doing a push on foot to his nephew who was hunting for the first time but not having any luck. Suddenly, his friend ( a guy in his late 50's) drew his rifle up and just as he pulled the trigger my friend slapped the rifle down. Guy had drawn up on one my friends horses that was slipping thru the brush. Even after being told that the horses hadn't been moved out. He never got to hunt there again

 

[highgrit]

Well its a damm shame for everyone. Can you imagine taking your grandson hunting and killing somebody. You know Pop was trying to teach him hunter safety. And the family members of the person killed is never going to understand, or get past this tragety. God bless them. Its never a bad idea to wear bright colors is the woods.

 

[Kathie in Thorp]

I don't know about where you live, but I can Guaran-On-Tee that bikers/hikers will not be required to wear Hunter Orange or similar as they wander through the woods during hunting seasons in this state. Not likely in your state, either. The burden of "identification" is on the hunter, which is where it should be. And, yes, I feel for that Grandpa, just out having a hunt with his grandkid, probably trying to teach him something -- but he screwed up on the most important safety issue. It was an accident, no doubt about that -- but it was negligent on his part. No one will come out of this "whole." Tragedy for all. :cry2:

 

[Caustic Burno]

Texas Hunter Orange Requirement
All persons on public hunting lands (state, national forests, and grasslands) during daylight hours when hunting with firearms is permitted must wear at least 400 square inches of hunter orange material with orange headgear, and at least 144 square inches appearing on both chest and back. Exempt from these requirements are persons hunting turkey, migratory birds, alligators, or desert bighorn sheep; persons within the enclosed passenger compartment of a motor vehicle; or persons within a designated campground, designated vehicle parking area, designated boat launching facility, or departmental check station

 

[Kathie in Thorp]

Texas Hunter Orange Requirement
All persons on public hunting lands (state, national forests, and grasslands) during daylight hours when hunting with firearms is permitted must wear at least 400 square inches of hunter orange material with orange headgear, and at least 144 square inches appearing on both chest and back. Exempt from these requirements are persons hunting turkey, migratory birds, alligators, or desert bighorn sheep; persons within the enclosed passenger compartment of a motor vehicle; or persons within a designated campground, designated vehicle parking area, designated boat launching facility, or departmental check station

I like that CB -- isn't the law here.

 

[Caustic Burno]

With all the nuts today I don't understand why every state doesn't require it on public lands. To many people hunter or not have no idea or care about safety.

 

[Kathie in Thorp]

CB -- What you have there actually protects the hunters vs. the hikers/bikers, with the mandatory orange. But here, the hunters will never be protected against the others. Am not sure why your turkey, mig. bird, alligator, sheep hunters are exempt ??