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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 603543" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>I agree with cfpinz and others. Looking at both bulls from an unbiased point of view and having phenotype only as a point of referrence, your old bull has more length, greater spring of rib, deeper hindquarters, longer rump, and stands with his legs on the "four corners". He is a more well-balanced bull comparing him length-wise than the younger bull. The younger bull is obviously lacking a more arched spring of rib, which will restrict capacity of both his replacement heifers, if you plan to keep any, and also his feeder calves. He appears almost 'post-legged' and slightly cow-hocked. Look at how his hind feet point away from his center-line, even on the 3/4 angle picture.</p><p></p><p>I would suggest that you use great care as to the cows/heifers with whom you mate him. You don't want to lose what good phenotype quality you already posses. It takes too long to 'undo' a collection of mistakes from one season of mating the wrong traits into your herd. The "Old Man" is a pretty good looking Gelbvieh, and is NOT Funnel Butted! That negative characteristic is <strong>VERY</strong> difficult to eradicate from your Genetic base!</p><p></p><p>I usually don't like to critique an animal this severely from a couple or three pictures, but each picture shows me the same negative traits, which indicates that it usually is not the way they are standing at a particular moment. </p><p></p><p>Sorry to 'burst your bubble', but better now than later. I am afraid your new bull will cost you some time in the future to repair the damage. One caveat I'll offer; I haven't seen your cow herd, and that may make a significant difference in how your young bull may affect your herd genetics.</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p><p></p><p>PS- Oh yes, one more comment. What is that wavy line down the old bull's back?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 603543, member: 1683"] I agree with cfpinz and others. Looking at both bulls from an unbiased point of view and having phenotype only as a point of referrence, your old bull has more length, greater spring of rib, deeper hindquarters, longer rump, and stands with his legs on the "four corners". He is a more well-balanced bull comparing him length-wise than the younger bull. The younger bull is obviously lacking a more arched spring of rib, which will restrict capacity of both his replacement heifers, if you plan to keep any, and also his feeder calves. He appears almost 'post-legged' and slightly cow-hocked. Look at how his hind feet point away from his center-line, even on the 3/4 angle picture. I would suggest that you use great care as to the cows/heifers with whom you mate him. You don't want to lose what good phenotype quality you already posses. It takes too long to 'undo' a collection of mistakes from one season of mating the wrong traits into your herd. The "Old Man" is a pretty good looking Gelbvieh, and is NOT Funnel Butted! That negative characteristic is [b]VERY[/b] difficult to eradicate from your Genetic base! I usually don't like to critique an animal this severely from a couple or three pictures, but each picture shows me the same negative traits, which indicates that it usually is not the way they are standing at a particular moment. Sorry to 'burst your bubble', but better now than later. I am afraid your new bull will cost you some time in the future to repair the damage. One caveat I'll offer; I haven't seen your cow herd, and that may make a significant difference in how your young bull may affect your herd genetics. DOC HARRIS PS- Oh yes, one more comment. What is that wavy line down the old bull's back? [/QUOTE]
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