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<blockquote data-quote="Double R Ranch" data-source="post: 1819603" data-attributes="member: 411"><p>[USER=25884]@farmerjan[/USER] Thanks so much for the corn tip. Our cow is doing fantastic. The calves are growing well. They are now spending a lot more time at the hay bunk (remember we had a fire so no pasture for them currently) and in their creep feeder. They also sneak some of their "moms" grain at feeding. I think we are going to be ok if we can keep up with the feed costs. Calves are now 2 months old. I need to weigh the cow although being pregnant she will be putting on weight that way but from visual it appears she's slowly putting weight back on in the right places. We are very relieved with the current outcome. So thankful to you, [USER=39373]@MurraysMutts[/USER] and others who offered so much advice. </p><p>A new question. Dehorning. I had the now weaned heifer done by the vet at around 3 months old. Postponed due to weather. Lets just say it wasn't a good experience and she wasn't actually dehorned. One side had a growing scur, the other had a horn growing. The vet said I could bring her back in and pay for another dehorning which I am not willing to do at this point. I feel like I paid for a "basic" service and didn't get that. Maybe I am wrong because I don't do dehorning. Maybe this is a common problem? Having never dehorned with an iron before (breed polled cattle) I have only done paste a few times on dairy graft calves and am not really a fan of it. Plus at this point they are both way to old for that. Bought a dehorning iron, did a ton of research here, on the internet, watching YouTube videos and having now seen the vet "do it" I needed to get this taken care of. Also talked to a dairyman friend of mine as they dehorn all their calves. I did the steer first and he didn't even flinch. Night and day from the heifer at the vet which seemed odd to me. He didn't skip a beat. As if it was not done. So surprised. Brought the heifer in next, clipped her horn areas and was surprised to see far more horn than expected on one side. She has quite the hairdo that hid how big it was and wasn't a fan of me trying to feel them. Bigger diameter than expected. Proceeded to block and dehorn her and she didn't even seem to feel anything. Again odd since when it was done by the vet she had to be tied up (after being blocked) and she did clearly feel it. Took her a good month to even allow us to touch her head. Putting the halter on was a nightmare so it was left on for a time. Now completed, one side was small and should be no big deal in healing. I hope. The other actually had a decent pointy horn growing. Doing research there was warnings that the horn can come off leaving an open sinus cavity at this age. Has anyone experienced this? If so how long do I need to keep a close watch for that? It's been a week now and so far it looks like I would expect. The center internal horn part hasn't come off yet but the cap did pop off immediately upon dehorning. She is already letting me touch her head more every day. Again I can't explain why the experience is so different from when the vet "did it". Advice on how long it takes to really start healing up? I would assume it's just like a brand as far as the circle around the horn. The steer hasn't show any sign he was even dehorned. I from now on will be doing this myself when they are very young. Anyone have any advice on this? Maybe I am being unfair to the vet? What to watch for and for how long as far as a sinus issue for the heifer? Basically when can I stop worrying about her. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /> You know I never had this issue with previous cattle but these darn jerseys are something else. They work their way into your heart. At least they are for us. </p><p>Thanks in advance!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Double R Ranch, post: 1819603, member: 411"] [USER=25884]@farmerjan[/USER] Thanks so much for the corn tip. Our cow is doing fantastic. The calves are growing well. They are now spending a lot more time at the hay bunk (remember we had a fire so no pasture for them currently) and in their creep feeder. They also sneak some of their "moms" grain at feeding. I think we are going to be ok if we can keep up with the feed costs. Calves are now 2 months old. I need to weigh the cow although being pregnant she will be putting on weight that way but from visual it appears she's slowly putting weight back on in the right places. We are very relieved with the current outcome. So thankful to you, [USER=39373]@MurraysMutts[/USER] and others who offered so much advice. A new question. Dehorning. I had the now weaned heifer done by the vet at around 3 months old. Postponed due to weather. Lets just say it wasn't a good experience and she wasn't actually dehorned. One side had a growing scur, the other had a horn growing. The vet said I could bring her back in and pay for another dehorning which I am not willing to do at this point. I feel like I paid for a "basic" service and didn't get that. Maybe I am wrong because I don't do dehorning. Maybe this is a common problem? Having never dehorned with an iron before (breed polled cattle) I have only done paste a few times on dairy graft calves and am not really a fan of it. Plus at this point they are both way to old for that. Bought a dehorning iron, did a ton of research here, on the internet, watching YouTube videos and having now seen the vet "do it" I needed to get this taken care of. Also talked to a dairyman friend of mine as they dehorn all their calves. I did the steer first and he didn't even flinch. Night and day from the heifer at the vet which seemed odd to me. He didn't skip a beat. As if it was not done. So surprised. Brought the heifer in next, clipped her horn areas and was surprised to see far more horn than expected on one side. She has quite the hairdo that hid how big it was and wasn't a fan of me trying to feel them. Bigger diameter than expected. Proceeded to block and dehorn her and she didn't even seem to feel anything. Again odd since when it was done by the vet she had to be tied up (after being blocked) and she did clearly feel it. Took her a good month to even allow us to touch her head. Putting the halter on was a nightmare so it was left on for a time. Now completed, one side was small and should be no big deal in healing. I hope. The other actually had a decent pointy horn growing. Doing research there was warnings that the horn can come off leaving an open sinus cavity at this age. Has anyone experienced this? If so how long do I need to keep a close watch for that? It's been a week now and so far it looks like I would expect. The center internal horn part hasn't come off yet but the cap did pop off immediately upon dehorning. She is already letting me touch her head more every day. Again I can't explain why the experience is so different from when the vet "did it". Advice on how long it takes to really start healing up? I would assume it's just like a brand as far as the circle around the horn. The steer hasn't show any sign he was even dehorned. I from now on will be doing this myself when they are very young. Anyone have any advice on this? Maybe I am being unfair to the vet? What to watch for and for how long as far as a sinus issue for the heifer? Basically when can I stop worrying about her. 😂 You know I never had this issue with previous cattle but these darn jerseys are something else. They work their way into your heart. At least they are for us. Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]
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