Nurse arrested

[Anonymous]

https://youtu.be/RSFzRD5z9QM In order for the public to have respect for laws and law officers, then the laws have to be respectable and the officers enforcing the laws also have to be respectable. This officer is not. What if this was your wife, daughter, mother, employee. I hope she sues and he loses his job but even more so I hope he loses his retirement.

 

[callmefence]

I saw this on the news last night. He has been placed on adminstrative leave with pay.
The chief should be removed for not having him jailed. Every other officer on the scene should be removed from duty for not stepping in.
He is a candidate for a high grit...Imo

 

[Anonymous]

I saw this on the news last night. He has been placed on adminstrative leave with pay.
The chief should be removed for not having him jailed. Every other officer on the scene should be removed from duty for not stepping in.
He is a candidate for a high grit...Imo

Agree with that statement.

 

[Cross-7]

Abuse of power.
I don't think it's going to end well for him.

 

[Brute 23]

I saw this on the news last night. He has been placed on adminstrative leave with pay.
The chief should be removed for not having him jailed. Every other officer on the scene should be removed from duty for not stepping in.
He is a candidate for a high grit...Imo

I agree. Hang the officers involved from the highest tree.

They were trying insight fear in to every one in that hospital. That is completely unacceptable. You can see their mentality when they talk to her in the car.

 

[HDRider]

Cops are used to getting their way.

 

[Bright Raven]

I cannot hear half of what went on. Would someone please summarize the nature of the offense? Thanks.

 

[herofan]

https://youtu.be/RSFzRD5z9QM In order for the public to have respect for laws and law officers, then the laws have to be respectable and the officers enforcing the laws also have to be respectable. This officer is not. What if this was your wife, daughter, mother, employee. I hope she sues and he loses his job but even more so I hope he loses his retirement.

I agree 100 percent. What purpose did it serve to arrest and remove a nurse from her patients for what she did? She was just a human being doing her job; she wasn't committing a heinous crime.

Was she released wit his any charges dropped?

 

[Anonymous]

https://youtu.be/RSFzRD5z9QM In order for the public to have respect for laws and law officers, then the laws have to be respectable and the officers enforcing the laws also have to be respectable. This officer is not. What if this was your wife, daughter, mother, employee. I hope she sues and he loses his job but even more so I hope he loses his retirement.

I agree 100 percent. What purpose did it serve to arrest and remove a nurse from her patients for what she did? She was just a human being doing her job; she wasn't committing a heinous crime.

Was she released wit his any charges dropped?

Yes she was released.

 

[Anonymous]

I cannot hear half of what went on. Would someone please summarize the nature of the offense? Thanks.

Apparently there was a wreck and driver was hospitalized and unconscious. Cop insisted on nurse drawing blood but she refused because there was no warrant and patient could not agree to his blood being drawn for law enforcement.

 

[Bright Raven]

I cannot hear half of what went on. Would someone please summarize the nature of the offense? Thanks.

Apparently there was a wreck and driver was hospitalized and unconscious. Cop insisted on nurse drawing blood but she refused because there was no warrant and patient could not agree to his blood being drawn for law enforcement.

Thanks. Horrible decision by officer.

 

[Anonymous]

I cannot hear half of what went on. Would someone please summarize the nature of the offense? Thanks.

Apparently there was a wreck and driver was hospitalized and unconscious. Cop insisted on nurse drawing blood but she refused because there was no warrant and patient could not agree to his blood being drawn for law enforcement.

Thanks. Horrible decision by officer.

She was showing him the documented hospital policy for blood samples for law enforcement and even had her supervisor on phone backing her up. He broke the law, not her.

 

[HDRider]

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/salt-lake- ... est-video/

Gray was incapable of giving his consent, so that was off of the table.

That leaves exigency as the only possible exception in this case. The most common argument for exigency in a blood draw is that the drugs or alcohol, in a person’s blood, may significantly dissipate in the time that it takes to get a warrant.

Case law on this is mixed around the country, with some jurisdictions allowing for it and others prohibiting it. The U.S. Supreme court specifically left the exigency argument open in Birchfield v North Dakota.

Does that mean that Detective Payne could have completed a legal blood draw without a warrant. Possibly, except for one thing; Gray wasn’t under arrest, which suggests that there was no probable cause.

If there were no reasonable grounds to believe that Gray may have been impaired by drugs or alcohol, then a warrantless blood draw would have required consent.

Based on established case law, it appears unlikely that the search of Gray’s person would have been lawful.

 

[Bright Raven]

Apparently there was a wreck and driver was hospitalized and unconscious. Cop insisted on nurse drawing blood but she refused because there was no warrant and patient could not agree to his blood being drawn for law enforcement.

Thanks. Horrible decision by officer.

She was showing him the documented hospital policy for blood samples for law enforcement and even had her supervisor on phone backing her up. He broke the law, not her.

You got to use the gray matter between your ears. HeII, she was not a threat to the public.

 

[herofan]

If some police officers act like this when we live in a day and age where they know everything they do can be recorded, I can't imagine how some acted before recording was common.

 

[slick4591]

Didn't read where they said anything about the truck driver dying or not. Haven't read this law in a long time but it used to be in Texas if there was a death involved you could sit on the suspect and use whatever means necessary to get a warrant-less draw. The one thing that might bother me a lot on this is the fact that hospitals routinely draw blood in the ER and perform their own analysis. No telling how many Subpoena Duces Tecums I've applied for and caused to be issued for the blood test results of defendants. Grand jury could have done that as an investigative tool.

 

[callmefence]

Didn't read where they said anything about the truck driver dying or not. Haven't read this law in a long time but it used to be in Texas if there was a death involved you could sit on the suspect and use whatever means necessary to get a warrant-less draw. The one thing that might bother me a lot on this is the fact that hospitals routinely draw blood in the ER and perform their own analysis. No telling how many Subpoena Duces Tecums I've applied for and caused to be issued for the blood test results of defendants. Grand jury could have done that as an investigative tool.

Couldn't he have just called the judge and gotten a warrant??

 

[Bright Raven]

Didn't read where they said anything about the truck driver dying or not. Haven't read this law in a long time but it used to be in Texas if there was a death involved you could sit on the suspect and use whatever means necessary to get a warrant-less draw. The one thing that might bother me a lot on this is the fact that hospitals routinely draw blood in the ER and perform their own analysis. No telling how many Subpoena Duces Tecums I've applied for and caused to be issued for the blood test results of defendants. Grand jury could have done that as an investigative tool.

Dennis. The link posted by HD although they admit they are speculating, discusses the warrantless draw and all possible avenues. Good read!

 

[slick4591]

Didn't read where they said anything about the truck driver dying or not. Haven't read this law in a long time but it used to be in Texas if there was a death involved you could sit on the suspect and use whatever means necessary to get a warrant-less draw. The one thing that might bother me a lot on this is the fact that hospitals routinely draw blood in the ER and perform their own analysis. No telling how many Subpoena Duces Tecums I've applied for and caused to be issued for the blood test results of defendants. Grand jury could have done that as an investigative tool.

Couldn't he have just called the judge and gotten a warrant??

Yes, unless they didn't have probable cause at that time. That used to take us 3 hours or so on those spur of the moment deals. Still, an affidavit has to be completed and signed off on by a judge and returned to the hospital. The nurse did ask about a digital warrant, so I'm assuming there is a shorter route these days.

 

[slick4591]

Didn't read where they said anything about the truck driver dying or not. Haven't read this law in a long time but it used to be in Texas if there was a death involved you could sit on the suspect and use whatever means necessary to get a warrant-less draw. The one thing that might bother me a lot on this is the fact that hospitals routinely draw blood in the ER and perform their own analysis. No telling how many Subpoena Duces Tecums I've applied for and caused to be issued for the blood test results of defendants. Grand jury could have done that as an investigative tool.

Dennis. The link posted by HD although they admit they are speculating, discusses the warrantless draw and all possible avenues. Good read!

I read that and not being part of the events, my reasoning is speculation too. It's just another work around.