New Grass in Hay Field

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Walking my hay field yesterday pulling up rye grass clumps, I see a new grass coming up that is clumped, but has a dark red stalk coming from the root ball and it grows straight up. It pulls up easy but it is all over the field. Not good.
Took my camera app, "Picture This" to figure out what it was. It really reminds me of how Johnson Grass looks when it begins to sprout with the red color, but looks like young broomsedge also. But my Broomsedge is dying because of the lime and fertilizer I put down. I guess 95% of the clumps are totally dead and some with a little bit of blades have come out, but it is not getting any taller.
This grass pulls up very easy with the root ball which is shallow.

"Picture This" gave me four different names of this grass. It showed it to be "Dallis Grass," "Yellow Indian grass." Barnyard grass." and "Switch grass."
I just wonder about the accuracy of this app. I suppose I will know if it ever develops a seed head, but I plan on that not happening as I am going to mow anything that produces a seed head with a mower.
I have a few spots of Dallis grass in my yard, and the blades are a bit wider, but are soft and a lighter green. Seems to stay really flat except for those ugly seed heads that come nut that look like old TV antennas. They always show up when there is not much rain, but those seed heads will pop up and make your yard look bad.

If it is Dallis Grass, I have been told that to wait until October, when the Bermuda winds down and starts going dormant, the Dallis Grass will still be green, and spray it again with Round Up.
I hope the same will hold true for what ever this grass may be. I will try that with my yard too, but it is Zoysia.

I am sure I will always have to knock back some kind of Johnson Grass and Blackberry bushes each season as it grows on the ditch banks which prevents the large flow of water from eating my land away. Farmer on the other side of the ditch keeps his clean and I see deep indentions forming as it carries his ground down the creek. His field gets smaller each year by bit by bit.
 
Turned my cows and new calves out onto my fescue and orchard grass field. Was going to bale it first, but decided I have enough hay from carryover to make this year stretch without this 20 acres of hay.
Should see my young calves grabbing grass quick this year!
 

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Walking my hay field yesterday pulling up rye grass clumps, I see a new grass coming up that is clumped, but has a dark red stalk coming from the root ball and it grows straight up. It pulls up easy but it is all over the field. Not good.
Took my camera app, "Picture This" to figure out what it was. It really reminds me of how Johnson Grass looks when it begins to sprout with the red color, but looks like young broomsedge also. But my Broomsedge is dying because of the lime and fertilizer I put down. I guess 95% of the clumps are totally dead and some with a little bit of blades have come out, but it is not getting any taller.
This grass pulls up very easy with the root ball which is shallow.

"Picture This" gave me four different names of this grass. It showed it to be "Dallis Grass," "Yellow Indian grass." Barnyard grass." and "Switch grass."
I just wonder about the accuracy of this app. I suppose I will know if it ever develops a seed head, but I plan on that not happening as I am going to mow anything that produces a seed head with a mower.
I have a few spots of Dallis grass in my yard, and the blades are a bit wider, but are soft and a lighter green. Seems to stay really flat except for those ugly seed heads that come nut that look like old TV antennas. They always show up when there is not much rain, but those seed heads will pop up and make your yard look bad.

If it is Dallis Grass, I have been told that to wait until October, when the Bermuda winds down and starts going dormant, the Dallis Grass will still be green, and spray it again with Round Up.
I hope the same will hold true for what ever this grass may be. I will try that with my yard too, but it is Zoysia.

I am sure I will always have to knock back some kind of Johnson Grass and Blackberry bushes each season as it grows on the ditch banks which prevents the large flow of water from eating my land away. Farmer on the other side of the ditch keeps his clean and I see deep indentions forming as it carries his ground down the creek. His field gets smaller each year by bit by bit.
Without a picture or better description I can't really even speculate. What comes to mind is sweet vernal, but that 'guess' may be way off. If they are larger "clumps" at this point, I'd rule out barnyard. It's an annual so waiting until October would mean why bother to spray. The other 3 are perennial warm season that should 'just be starting' to regrow and I'd wonder how noticeable they would even be yet. I'm not saying it isn't one of them, but I have questions on those guesses. What kind of hay is intended to be in this field?
 
Dallisgrass and switch grass look nothing alike. Dallisgrass grows down close to the ground, looks a lot like crab grass and it has 4, maybe 5 seedheads on it on 2-3 tallish stalks per plant. The stalks might get 2-2 1/2 ft tall if lots of rainfall. The mature seedheads turn black, a lot like Bahia does.

Switchgrass grows straight up and can get really tall really quick.. It and the yellow indian grass look similar but nothing like dallisgrass.
 
Walking my hay field yesterday pulling up rye grass clumps, I see a new grass coming up that is clumped, but has a dark red stalk coming from the root ball and it grows straight up. It pulls up easy but it is all over the field. Not good.
Took my camera app, "Picture This" to figure out what it was. It really reminds me of how Johnson Grass looks when it begins to sprout with the red color, but looks like young broomsedge also. But my Broomsedge is dying because of the lime and fertilizer I put down. I guess 95% of the clumps are totally dead and some with a little bit of blades have come out, but it is not getting any taller.
This grass pulls up very easy with the root ball which is shallow.

"Picture This" gave me four different names of this grass. It showed it to be "Dallis Grass," "Yellow Indian grass." Barnyard grass." and "Switch grass."
I just wonder about the accuracy of this app. I suppose I will know if it ever develops a seed head, but I plan on that not happening as I am going to mow anything that produces a seed head with a mower.
I have a few spots of Dallis grass in my yard, and the blades are a bit wider, but are soft and a lighter green. Seems to stay really flat except for those ugly seed heads that come nut that look like old TV antennas. They always show up when there is not much rain, but those seed heads will pop up and make your yard look bad.

If it is Dallis Grass, I have been told that to wait until October, when the Bermuda winds down and starts going dormant, the Dallis Grass will still be green, and spray it again with Round Up.
I hope the same will hold true for what ever this grass may be. I will try that with my yard too, but it is Zoysia.

I am sure I will always have to knock back some kind of Johnson Grass and Blackberry bushes each season as it grows on the ditch banks which prevents the large flow of water from eating my land away. Farmer on the other side of the ditch keeps his clean and I see deep indentions forming as it carries his ground down the creek. His field gets smaller each year by bit by bit.
You might try the app called “Seek”…it is somehow related to iNaturalist and has worked for me on a few things. It is free.
 
You might try the app called "Seek"…it is somehow related to iNaturalist and has worked for me on a few things. It is free.
I need to download that one as well and see what it says. I have not been in my hayfield and it looks like a dang Crab Grass fest is going on. Had a total knee replacement and all I can say is there is no Johnson Grass, or tall weeds. Just a beautiful field of Crab Grass. UGH!!!!
Now I can walk and the season is over. No more Prowl for sure on my next adventure for sure. Tied my Bermuda Grass up where it would not spead by runners and it tells of it clubbing the roots, so the roots did not travel underground either. Good grief!!
 

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