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<blockquote data-quote="simme" data-source="post: 1754543" data-attributes="member: 40418"><p>I am going to disagree with the comments that Simmentals were crossed with Angus ONLY to get the black color. How do you explain the considerable number of RED simangus that were the result of using Red Angus in the cross? Why would anyone use simmental and red angus if they were ONLY looking for a black color. Simmental came from Europe as very different type cattle than the improved version today. Marbling, birth weight, calving ease, efficiency, mature size, milk are some traits that might not have been ideal in the original. Generations of selection can change cattle for better or worse. Genetics from other breeds can do the same, maybe faster. Simmental has an open herd book with a breed-up program as well as percentage cattle registration. That sure allows faster improvement (or the opposite depending on selections) than just selection/evolution within a "pure" breed. Angus offered some characteristics that mixed well with the continental breeds. Color is just one trait. Otherwise, everyone would raise pure black angus if color were the only goal. Then there is the heterosis thing that the crosses have. It is important to produce cattle to meet the needs of the industry. The simmental and angus cross do that pretty well whether it is black angus or red angus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simme, post: 1754543, member: 40418"] I am going to disagree with the comments that Simmentals were crossed with Angus ONLY to get the black color. How do you explain the considerable number of RED simangus that were the result of using Red Angus in the cross? Why would anyone use simmental and red angus if they were ONLY looking for a black color. Simmental came from Europe as very different type cattle than the improved version today. Marbling, birth weight, calving ease, efficiency, mature size, milk are some traits that might not have been ideal in the original. Generations of selection can change cattle for better or worse. Genetics from other breeds can do the same, maybe faster. Simmental has an open herd book with a breed-up program as well as percentage cattle registration. That sure allows faster improvement (or the opposite depending on selections) than just selection/evolution within a "pure" breed. Angus offered some characteristics that mixed well with the continental breeds. Color is just one trait. Otherwise, everyone would raise pure black angus if color were the only goal. Then there is the heterosis thing that the crosses have. It is important to produce cattle to meet the needs of the industry. The simmental and angus cross do that pretty well whether it is black angus or red angus. [/QUOTE]
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