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<blockquote data-quote="poorboy" data-source="post: 1580327" data-attributes="member: 1294"><p>I have a 450 utility. I bought it from a neighbor that had had it for a couple years. He realized it was time consuming and he was better off buying and grazing. It had about 300 through it. I've put about 2000 trough it in the past three years so far. </p><p></p><p>The only problems I have had is with auto tie. I picked up a stick and it hit perfect to bend the cut off assembly. I bent it back but still sometimes it gets in a bind. I need to replace the flipper rod for the knife. I remember it only when it doesn't cut, like the hole in the roof when its raining. One downside its a dirty baler, I mean the loose material builds up on the belts more than the little JD I have. The only other thing I don't like is hook up of the connector plug for the controls to the baler, I used a paint pen to help get them lined up. </p><p></p><p> If I was buying new I would get the net wrap and I'd think you would be pretty satisfied for many years for that amount of hay. I haven't had much experience with the rebel, but they are popular around here and I've heard nothing bad on them. Like what was said they are both base models. For that amount of hay they both would be fine. An older jd in good shape would also be a good option, especially if you have someone who knows them look it over. </p><p></p><p> I have a little 4x4 that I've used since 91 and I wouldn't care to hook up to and finish this years crop with even now. Just on an older baler little things can happen on Saturday evening on a memorial day weekend to put you in a bind. But that can happen to anyone of them even new. That's when a good dealer and good neighbors come into play. Not a bad idea to check out what they are using.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="poorboy, post: 1580327, member: 1294"] I have a 450 utility. I bought it from a neighbor that had had it for a couple years. He realized it was time consuming and he was better off buying and grazing. It had about 300 through it. I've put about 2000 trough it in the past three years so far. The only problems I have had is with auto tie. I picked up a stick and it hit perfect to bend the cut off assembly. I bent it back but still sometimes it gets in a bind. I need to replace the flipper rod for the knife. I remember it only when it doesn't cut, like the hole in the roof when its raining. One downside its a dirty baler, I mean the loose material builds up on the belts more than the little JD I have. The only other thing I don't like is hook up of the connector plug for the controls to the baler, I used a paint pen to help get them lined up. If I was buying new I would get the net wrap and I'd think you would be pretty satisfied for many years for that amount of hay. I haven't had much experience with the rebel, but they are popular around here and I've heard nothing bad on them. Like what was said they are both base models. For that amount of hay they both would be fine. An older jd in good shape would also be a good option, especially if you have someone who knows them look it over. I have a little 4x4 that I've used since 91 and I wouldn't care to hook up to and finish this years crop with even now. Just on an older baler little things can happen on Saturday evening on a memorial day weekend to put you in a bind. But that can happen to anyone of them even new. That's when a good dealer and good neighbors come into play. Not a bad idea to check out what they are using. [/QUOTE]
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