New Additions to the herd

gizmom

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We purchased these cows back in September but have had a time getting them hauled, but they finally arrived yesterday afternoon at around 4:00. Their welcome to Florida was a terrible thunder storm with tornado warnings and a total of 51/2 inches of rain. Welcome to your new home ladies. The new additions are:

Sinclair Queen Mother 6R109 Reg# 15366604
CF Queen Mother 5C10 Reg# 18323623





CFC Queen Mother 4X7 Reg# 18197793 and her flush sister

CFC Queen Mother 4X2 Reg# 18197791

The pictures aren't all that good I didn't want to stir them up since they have had a very stressful few days, it is a long haul from Nebraska to Florida, then the weather didn't help with getting them settled.





We are expecting more rain tonight so I think we are going to be busy repairing washes in the next few weeks.

gizmom
 
Glad they made it home safe. That's a long haul . I'd say a Florida winter will be a nice upgrade for them over a Nebraska winter. Hope they work out well for you. That's some serious rain y'all had looks like . Hopefully you won't get any bad storms.
 
Glad you got them to Florida. Kept the family together. Nice looking cattle.
I think your gonna really like those XXP's. Just sold a XXP bull, the guy had a little concern about so much EXT, his dame was EXT also, but I told him he was the calmest most docile bull here. After he got him home he said your right, laid down in the trailer for the hour ride home and got off the trailer and started eating hay, not a care in the world.

What are you gonna breed these heifers to? I used Infinity on my XXP heifer. Nothing straight Sinclair I liked for heifers, used some Boss on a few cows.
 
Since it took so long to get them hauled Travis went ahead and bred them for us, I don't know how good the chances are that they will stick since they were hauled two weeks after being bred but we will see. He bred both of them to Absolute, if they didn't stick they should recycle on Tuesday or Wednesday if so I may breed to New Day 8005. I think I will flush the cow to Wulff's EXT 6106 the first time, I think that will be a nice mating. I am also thinking about a flush to New Day, Right Time and Resource for the cow. I have some time to make up my mind since she didn't get here in time for our ET work on the 3rd I will keep her open and flush her several times this year, then try to get her bred back. I have wanted to add XXP into the herd for a long time so really excited to see how these two heifers pan out. They are getting a taste of Florida weather today I just loaded the Christmas presents into the truck and was sweating like a whore at confession by the time I finished. Sure doesn't feel like Christmas when it's in the high 70's with 100% humidity.

I think the trip was about 1350 miles, they are wore out for sure.

gizmom
 
Since it took so long to get them hauled Travis went ahead and bred them for us, I don't know how good the chances are that they will stick since they were hauled two weeks after being bred but we will see. He bred both of them to Absolute, if they didn't stick they should recycle on Tuesday or Wednesday if so I may breed to New Day 8005. I think I will flush the cow to Wulff's EXT 6106 the first time, I think that will be a nice mating. I am also thinking about a flush to New Day, Right Time and Resource for the cow. I have some time to make up my mind since she didn't get here in time for our ET work on the 3rd I will keep her open and flush her several times this year, then try to get her bred back. I have wanted to add XXP into the herd for a long time so really excited to see how these two heifers pan out. They are getting a taste of Florida weather today I just loaded the Christmas presents into the truck and was sweating like a lady of the night at confession (it edited my w word lol) by the time I finished. Sure doesn't feel like Christmas when it's in the high 70's with 100% humidity.

I think the trip was about 1350 miles, they are wore out for sure.

gizmom
 
Congrats on your new additions. Those types of trips will wear you out , but seems exciting at the same time.
I feel you on the weather! We have the windows up in the house and the fans on trying to keep from turning the AC back on. It is sooo muggy with this humidity. I quit keeping up with the rain totals, but am sure we have gotten a years worth here since late September. Washes, and boggy pastures for sure, ugh. I hope your new cows will flush well for you.
Maybe we need a Jimmy Buffet Christmas CD this year! :santa:
 
Congrats on your purchase, I have a new day heifer, and a absolute bull calf and a sav priority bull calf. The new day heifer is just how I like them, and the Priority calf is better than the absolute bull calf.

But you have a way better program than I do :tiphat:
 
Just a question in general about sourcing cattle from different climates and specific breeding programs so not sling mud. More of a wide open discussion question.

Recent bull test: cattle sourced from Sinclair (I assume) apparently did not fit your climate or the test parameters to be what is called successful in mainstream breeding. Personally I think that you are wise to try a second generational fit from one of the bulls. Gutsy call. New cattle are from the same source (again, assumed) or linked bloodlines, climate adaptation or what ever one wants to call regional differences. Do you expect differences of results from these cattle in your environment because ________?

Only reason I ask is I remember the greatness and bigness of Canadian cattle being brought to the 48s back in the late 50's, the 60's and 70's. After some adaptation and selection they turned out to "just" fit in.
 
Tnfarmboy67, I really don’t know if they stopped I know they made a delivery in Louisiana, but don’t know if they unloaded or not.
Named’em Tamed’em , thanks for the compliment on our program but from the sounds of it you have a pretty good program going for yourself. We have used New Day in our program for years and he has done us a lot of good. I have been thinking of using the Absolute bull for a couple of years just haven’t seen any of his progeny so haven’t done it. When Travis asked about breeding he gave us a list of heifer bulls he had in the tank, since he had the Absolute bull we decided to give him a try. I sure like his genetics. If the heifers didn’t stick they should recycle tomorrow or Wednesday, I hope they stuck. We have a few Priority calves on the ground they look pretty good, time will tell.
Ebenezer
Good point on sourcing cattle from different climates. We have had pretty good success doing it, it is best to bring them in the winter. This gives them chance to acclimate a bit before the summer hits them. Younger cattle adapt faster than older ones. We purchased a cow from Bill Rishel back in 2000 she was a five year old cow. It took her about a year to acclimate but she did and worked out very well for us. We purchased a yearling bull out of the Sinclair program back in February 2010 since we have a fall breeding program we got him here in March and put him to work the following December. He worked out just fine we have a bunch of his daughters working in the herd so we did not see any issues with bringing this bull into our climate.
The bull calves that didn’t work out for us are Sinclair Rito 3R9 X N Bar Clova Pride F2839 the heifer mates to these bulls look really good and will probably make nice cows. The two bull calves will make nice hamburger. These calves were ET calves no excuses for needing to acclimate they were born here. Some mating just don’t work and unfortunately this one didn’t at least as far as being a bull maker goes. Time will tell on the heifers, I know I will have to breed them to a bull with performance but I still think they have the potential to make some good cows.
The other two ET bull calves out of the Sinclair program have more performance than the two 3R9 X F2839 calves. They are out of N Bar Primrose Y3051 X Finks 5522-6148. I plan to use the B35 bull for clean up on heifers, I would imagine the heifers out of this young bull will make some great cows, I just can’t throw those good maternal genetics away. The calf finished the Florida Bull Test with an index of 89 he has a CED of +6 EN of 13.82 he is out of a cow that is known for making bulls. All of the heifers have been AI’d so it isn’t like I will be breeding all of them to this bull, but I do want a sample of calves out of him to see how they develop.
As far as what I expect from the new cattle, nothing more than I expect from the ones we breed here at the farm. The two yearling heifers should have no problem settling in, the cow is going to be held open for a year and flushed so she will go through her first summer open. The plan right now is to flush her in March and April then again next December and January then get her back in calf.
I personally think a good cow is a good cow no matter her geographic location. If she is good in Florida she is going to be good in Montana. I do think we have to look at hair coat in Florida we need cattle that will slick off for the summer

gizmom
 
I personally think a good cow is a good cow no matter her geographic location. If she is good in Florida she is going to be good in Montana.
South to north and east to west, I agree in the majority. North to south and west to east - a long and expensive learning curve there.

I do think we have to look at hair coat in Florida we need cattle that will slick off for the summer
Hair coat is merely one indicator but a big one. Especially on fescue which I do not think you deal with. Fescue is an issue that will clean your clock if you do not mind but on the other hand can make your grazing plan easy and the most economically pleasing. It takes the right kind of cattle and the right genetics. Move some in here from non-fescue areas and I expect 30% to be around in 2 to 3 years but they will be the right ones.
 

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