My turn for Bull critics ....

torogmc81

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seems to be common the last month or too, so I'm just as curious for opinions, criticism. No sugar coating please.

DOB 1-13-13
PRAIRIE CREEK Substance 3028

Sire: Benefield Substance. #16207085

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Get rid of the nuts and he would look just like the cows. No masculinity whatsoever. But he may turn out great calves. Time will tell.
 
TennesseeTuxedo":3ltye7h0 said:
Did you realize a midget in a kid suit is scaling your fence in an attempt to steal your bull?
LOL :lol2: . I didn't notice she photo bombed that pic, HAHA. I knew she was there, you have to tell her every 10 seconds to get off the top of the fence. Quite the daredevil at 3.5 years old, so without a doubt she gets a reminder everyday to stay a safe distance from the cows.
 
TexasBred":1k5v6mvf said:
Get rid of the nuts and he would look just like the cows. No masculinity whatsoever. But he may turn out great calves. Time will tell.
I'm surprised his sheath isn't out in any of the pics. Very common for him, definitely hanging and dangling more than most bulls I've seen. Thanks TB, that's what I'm hoping for, nice calves. And I'm hoping they calve good, because my goal is to start AI at least half of ladies next year, so then he becomes clean up for some of the heard. Time will tell, that's part of what makes it so intriguing for me!
 
torogmc81":1e0vw38r said:
TennesseeTuxedo":1e0vw38r said:
Did you realize a midget in a kid suit is scaling your fence in an attempt to steal your bull?
LOL :lol2: . I didn't notice she photo bombed that pic, HAHA. I knew she was there, you have to tell her every 10 seconds to get off the top of the fence. Quite the daredevil at 3.5 years old, so without a doubt she gets a reminder everyday to stay a safe distance from the cows.

I bet she's a handful.
 
In analyzing this 18 month bull I am reporting what I see, and the opinion given is because I see nothing that would justify even using him on any cow if you expect to produce profitable progeny. If you keep replacement heifers from him, the cows MUST be considerably higher phenotype quality than the bull to justify the effort involved. Using replacement heifers for your herd would set you back probably 10 years in attempting to correct the mistakes he would establish in your breeding protocols. He WILL NOT produce acceptable or profitable offspring as would a more desirable bull - and better bulls are very available. You just have to look for them with an open mind and knowing what characteristics and traits you are seeking for PROFIT!

He lacks muscularity (minimal crest and bone development), excessive slope of pasterns, splay footed, sloping rump and poor hindquarter thickness and depth, cut up in the flank (Funnel-Butt!), restricted heart girth, lack of capacity for heifer production. His top line is barely acceptable. From this side view it is impossible to ascertain his true width and consistent thickness from front to rear, so this blemish is an assumption only.

For the purposes of herd improvement and making a profit in the beef Cattle business, this bull should not be used to produce progeny! In my opinion, he would be an expensive Terminal product because of the anticipated lack of feed efficiency he would express in his progeny.

DOC HARRIS
 
I wouldn't have him on my place BUT... if you're already fully stocked and you like the cows you have, turn him out and sell every calf until you get into your upcoming AI calves. He's not quality but he's the right breed and color and the market is fantastic for his breed and color and looks like it will stay that way for a while AND, you're planning on having good genetics added in in the relatively near future. Just hang on until your AI calves come and then keep heifers back out of those.
 

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