I drew a muzzleloader tag for bull elk this year. I'd like to get one of the new inline type muzzleloader to hunt with and I'm leaning towards a CVA. What''s everyones experience and recommendations? Colorado doesn't allow pellets or scopes.
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M5farm
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I like the CVA guns. Caustic will be slobbering all over this thread and he is a expert on Muzzle loaders.
Commercialfarmer
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I know you can't use sabbots with the plastic wad or whatever you call them, but what about a solid one like this:
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Commercialfarmer
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Meant to add, that I have a CVA optima magnum that will drive tacks. I shot a doe at 175 yrds dead center- I use a sabot here. I have a lot of confidence in the gun and enjoy shooting it.
I never tried the sabot deal, just patch and round ball. Except for elk. For that I used a 54 with a Lee R.E.A.L. bullet. The engrave at the loading with the rifleing, thus their name. Mine I cast from everyrthing from pure lead to linotupe. Linotupe was a bugger to load but they all shot very well. These were the older styled slow rifling rifles, ranged from 1:48 to 1:66.
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Ned Jr.
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Thanks for the info. From what I've read a lot of people claim the CVA's shoot the best. Then I know a few that swear by Thompson Center too.Commercialfarmer":3myl6oi7 said:
Sabot's are not allowed in Colorado but Power Belts are.
I have a 54 caliber percussion with a 1 in 66 twist I shoot round balls with but I think a new inline would be less apt to misfire. I'd hate to call in the bull of my dreams and only have the cap go off scaring him off. Plus I like the looks of the power belts.
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Ned Jr.
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This is the one I'm thinking about getting. Unless someone here talks me out of it. 
http://www.cva.com/CVA-Store-View.php?id=8
http://www.cva.com/CVA-Store-View.php?id=8
denvermartinfarms
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Me and dad both shoot cva's and have never had a compliant. I wouldn't reccomend anything else.
skyhightree1
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I have 2 cva wolf magnums with camo and nickel or stainless barrel. It is short but I have killed deer over 140 yds away with a hornady xtp 44-240 bullet and sabot on 105 grains of pyrodex. I am not deemed as an expert like some but I can sure tell you what works and has put 7 deer and 3 bobcats mounts in the house. :2cents:
edit putting in pic - I keep that one to use the other is in a box in a safe I loved the gun so much I bought 2 of same thing.
edit putting in pic - I keep that one to use the other is in a box in a safe I loved the gun so much I bought 2 of same thing.
Caustic Burno
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I am not slobbering to set the record straight.M5farm":38a5p4an said:
My first choice would be my Knight inline for elk.
I shoot a couple of CVA Wolf's get some Blackhorn 209 powder and you can find a load that will drive tacks
shot after shot. Your most accurate load will most likely be in 90 to 100 grain volume range.
http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/ ... erdata.pdf
highgrit
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Well I have a Pro hunter, and a Encore made by TC. Both are 50cal. and I've had good luck with both. 3waycross shoots and hunts with a muzzleloader more than I do. My CVA had a horrible trigger pull and I could never get it mastered. The TC's have a good trigger IMO. And good luck on your hunt Ned.
ousoonerfan22
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Caustic Burno":f5wjk7sh said:
You didn't mention what bullet your Wolf's like?
You're right about less powder I tried 3 50 gr pellets and my Wolf wouldn't group at all so dropped down to 2 pellets and it's ok but no tack driver. I've tried several bullets.
Have any of you tried the pointed lead bullets I think the brand was Dead On or Dead Center? They look like a boattail bullet but they're lead and they use the plastic cup like a sabot. My gun shot those decent but I might try that powder CB mentioned.
Ned not to hijack your thead but we went to a wedding up at the Pines Ranch today and your valley shore does look purty.
I love that valley on a good year the grass is at the top of the fence posts and 6 months later the snow is at the top of the fenceposts.
I will need to buy some hay so let me know what it's going for down there this year.
I love that valley on a good year the grass is at the top of the fence posts and 6 months later the snow is at the top of the fenceposts.
I will need to buy some hay so let me know what it's going for down there this year.
Caustic Burno
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Those pellets are only good for the people making them.
Blackhorn is non corrosive as well doesn't draw moisture.
I always start a new muzzleloader up at 70 grains and work up. I have found very few
over the years shoot better over 90 grains in 50 cal. Each smokepole has a favorite load.
This is about making one shot count not trying to turn it into a 204 Ruger which is impossible.
You can buy into all the hype a smokepole is a 100 yard rifle not a 30-06.
Ballistically they won't compete with a 30-30
I shoot 245 grain Powerbelt Bullets
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104547780
Or sabots with a 44 cal 240 grain Hornady bullet.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104547780
Blackhorn is non corrosive as well doesn't draw moisture.
I always start a new muzzleloader up at 70 grains and work up. I have found very few
over the years shoot better over 90 grains in 50 cal. Each smokepole has a favorite load.
This is about making one shot count not trying to turn it into a 204 Ruger which is impossible.
You can buy into all the hype a smokepole is a 100 yard rifle not a 30-06.
Ballistically they won't compete with a 30-30
I shoot 245 grain Powerbelt Bullets
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104547780
Or sabots with a 44 cal 240 grain Hornady bullet.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting ... t104547780
Caustic Burno
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3waycross":39t099w2 said:
You couldn't give me a pellet.
If that is the case I would use my TC Hawken and a Maxi Ball.
I would duplex the charge with 5 grains of 3 F black followed by 75 grains of Blackhorn.
