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Washington (CNN) — The US military has dropped an enormous bomb in Afghanistan, according to four US military officials with direct knowledge of the mission.

A GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb (MOAB), nicknamed the "mother of all bombs," was dropped at 7:32 pm local time Thursday, the sources said. A MOAB is a 21,600-pound, GPS-guided munition that is America's most powerful non-nuclear bomb.

The bomb was dropped by an MC-130 aircraft, stationed in Afghanistan and operated by Air Force Special Operations Command, Pentagon spokesman Adam Stump told CNN.

Officials said the target was an ISIS cave and tunnel complex and personnel in the Achin district of the Nangarhar province.

"The United States takes the fight against ISIS very seriously and in order to defeat the group we must deny them operational space, which we did," White House press secretary Sean Spicer said later Thursday. The strike "targeted a system of tunnels and cave that ISIS fighters use to move around freely."

The military is currently assessing the damage. Gen. John Nicholson, commander of US forces in Afghanistan, signed off on the use of the bomb, according to the sources. The authority to deploy the weapon was granted to Nicholson by the commander of US Central Command, Gen. Joseph Votel, Stump said.

This is the first time a MOAB has been used in the battlefield, according to the US officials. This munition was developed during the Iraq War.


"As ISIS-K's losses have mounted, they are using IEDs, bunkers and tunnels to thicken their defense," Nicholson said in a statement following the strike.

"This is the right munition to reduce these obstacles and maintain the momentum of our offensive against ISIS-K," Nicholson added.

"US forces took every precaution to avoid civilian casualties with this strike. US Forces will continue offensive operations until ISIS-K is destroyed in Afghanistan," read the statement from US Forces Afghanistan.

The extent of the damage and whether anyone was killed is not yet clear. The military is currently conducting an assessment.

The Pentagon is currently reviewing whether to deploy additional trainers to Afghanistan to help bolster US allies there.

The Achin district is the primary center of ISIS activity in Afghanistan. A US Army Special Forces soldier was killed fighting the terror group there Saturday.
 

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Sounds kind of like the FAE (Fuel Atomization Explosive) bombs from the 60s
 

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I agree with Pattons and Mc Arthurs philosophy of scorched earth take em out.
Mac wanted to lay a cobalt belt on the NK border with China sure would have saved us s lot of trouble
 

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Caustic Burno":2xunoutb said:
I agree with Pattons and Mc Arthurs philosophy of scorched earth take em out.
Mac wanted to lay a cobalt belt on the NK border with China sure would have saved us s lot of trouble
He may have 'wanted to' CB, but the cobalt bomb was just a fresh idea in the head of scientist Leó Szilárd in the early '50s. The cobalt bomb itself, unless Russia covertly has one, still doesn't exist today..it's never been built.
No cobalt or other salted bomb has ever been atmospherically tested, and as far as is publicly known none have ever been built. In light of the ready availability of fission-fusion-fission bombs, it is unlikely any special-purpose fallout contamination weapon will ever be developed.

The British did test a bomb that incorporated cobalt as an experimental radiochemical tracer (Antler/Round 1, 14 September 1957). This 1 kt device was exploded at the Tadje site, Maralinga range, Australia. The experiment was regarded as a failure and not repeated.
 

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If they would just do this each time one of our soldiers is killed maybe these goat herders will get the message. Just image the shock wave from this thing travelling outwards a mile at around 29,000 fps. If you were in the blast area your cells would burst from the shock only to be burst re-aligned a moment later the vacuum return wave would re-arrange everything one more time only a little slower but with as much force. If my memory serves me right it doesn't take but a 3 psi change in pressure to kill a person so anyone underground would be killed as well and the walls of caves and stuff can even amplify this force so you are getting a lot of bang for your buck with this puppy. Sure more effective than sending $100,000 rockets to hit mud huts.
 

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They will have to build more MOABs to do that. There are less than 20 in US inventory--probably closer to a dozen. Reported cost is $16 mill each--$314 mill for the 20 in the DoD procurement.
 

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greybeard":t6ffot8c said:
They will have to build more MOABs to do that. There are less than 20 in US inventory--probably closer to a dozen. Reported cost is $16 mill each--$314 mill for the 20 in the DoD procurement.

I'm for it. Just how many mud huts do you think you could fit in a mile radius? I believe in the long run it would be the cheapest route. Besides, there is a cool factor you just can't put a price on.
 

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greybeard":3hs8azd0 said:
Caustic Burno":3hs8azd0 said:
I agree with Pattons and Mc Arthurs philosophy of scorched earth take em out.
Mac wanted to lay a cobalt belt on the NK border with China sure would have saved us s lot of trouble
He may have 'wanted to' CB, but the cobalt bomb was just a fresh idea in the head of scientist Leó Szilárd in the early '50s. The cobalt bomb itself, unless Russia covertly has one, still doesn't exist today..it's never been built.
No cobalt or other salted bomb has ever been atmospherically tested, and as far as is publicly known none have ever been built. In light of the ready availability of fission-fusion-fission bombs, it is unlikely any special-purpose fallout contamination weapon will ever be developed.

The British did test a bomb that incorporated cobalt as an experimental radiochemical tracer (Antler/Round 1, 14 September 1957). This 1 kt device was exploded at the Tadje site, Maralinga range, Australia. The experiment was regarded as a failure and not repeated.


MacARTHUR CONTEMPLATES THE “BOMB.”
With the on-coming defeat a distinct possibility, talk of using the Atomic Bomb was making the rounds. Hoyt Vandenberg, speaking for the Air Force, suggested they were prepared to use it. MacArthur suggested a plan to use numerous bombs. The U.S. had a stockpile of nearly 300 air-burst bombs. Only President Truman could order them used. MacArthur insisted on bombing the Yalu power plants with multiple strikes by B-29s. Suggestions came from all services and every General offered his own plan. Headlines in all the papers gave the impression that MacArthur had already received the go-ahead after Truman said the U.S. was considering use of the Atomic weapon in connection with the war in Korea. The world watched and held it's breath following the media frenzy. A state of affairs was rapidly going from bad to disastrous. In a conference in the war room Vandenberg dismissed the idea of sending MacArthur further orders. "What good would it do? He won't obey the orders." Ridgeway exploded. "You can relieve any commander who won't obey orders, can't you?" Thus the idea of relieving MacArthur was on the table. MacArthur requested that the Pentagon grant him a field commander's discretion to employ nuclear weapons as necessary. He wanted them stockpiled in Okinawa. He explained he would drop between 30 and 50 atomic bombs- strung across the neck of Manchuria, and spread behind us, from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea-a belt of radioactive cobalt-for at least 60 years there would be no land invasion of Korea from the North. The Russians, he claimed, would be intimidated by this and do nothing. He continued to seek authority to deploy the bomb.
 

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We probably got more of our monies worth, but not warning them it was coming. You kill a lot more terrorist that way.
 

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Son of Butch":3pi1hv7u said:
Caustic Burno":3pi1hv7u said:
I agree with Pattons and Mc Arthurs philosophy of scorched earth take em out.
I imagine you're also a fan of 'Sherman's March to the Sea' the forerunner and foundation of their philosophy.
War is about winning if Lee had followed Shermans philosophy the war would have been over before it got started.
 

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If we didnt employ the win at all costs we would be speaking a totally different language today. Dropping the hoss of all bombs just gave the impression to me that the panty waist man don't run the show anymore.
 

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Caustic Burno":2hfgyup1 said:
greybeard":2hfgyup1 said:
Caustic Burno":2hfgyup1 said:
I agree with Pattons and Mc Arthurs philosophy of scorched earth take em out.
Mac wanted to lay a cobalt belt on the NK border with China sure would have saved us s lot of trouble
He may have 'wanted to' CB, but the cobalt bomb was just a fresh idea in the head of scientist Leó Szilárd in the early '50s. The cobalt bomb itself, unless Russia covertly has one, still doesn't exist today..it's never been built.
No cobalt or other salted bomb has ever been atmospherically tested, and as far as is publicly known none have ever been built. In light of the ready availability of fission-fusion-fission bombs, it is unlikely any special-purpose fallout contamination weapon will ever be developed.

The British did test a bomb that incorporated cobalt as an experimental radiochemical tracer (Antler/Round 1, 14 September 1957). This 1 kt device was exploded at the Tadje site, Maralinga range, Australia. The experiment was regarded as a failure and not repeated.


MacARTHUR CONTEMPLATES THE “BOMB.”
With the on-coming defeat a distinct possibility, talk of using the Atomic Bomb was making the rounds. Hoyt Vandenberg, speaking for the Air Force, suggested they were prepared to use it. MacArthur suggested a plan to use numerous bombs. The U.S. had a stockpile of nearly 300 air-burst bombs. Only President Truman could order them used. MacArthur insisted on bombing the Yalu power plants with multiple strikes by B-29s. Suggestions came from all services and every General offered his own plan. Headlines in all the papers gave the impression that MacArthur had already received the go-ahead after Truman said the U.S. was considering use of the Atomic weapon in connection with the war in Korea. The world watched and held it's breath following the media frenzy. A state of affairs was rapidly going from bad to disastrous. In a conference in the war room Vandenberg dismissed the idea of sending MacArthur further orders. "What good would it do? He won't obey the orders." Ridgeway exploded. "You can relieve any commander who won't obey orders, can't you?" Thus the idea of relieving MacArthur was on the table. MacArthur requested that the Pentagon grant him a field commander's discretion to employ nuclear weapons as necessary. He wanted them stockpiled in Okinawa. He explained he would drop between 30 and 50 atomic bombs- strung across the neck of Manchuria, and spread behind us, from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea-a belt of radioactive cobalt-for at least 60 years there would be no land invasion of Korea from the North. The Russians, he claimed, would be intimidated by this and do nothing. He continued to seek authority to deploy the bomb.
That may have been Mac's thinking but he was uninformed. Pure fantasy on his part.
There were no US cobalt bombs in the 50s, or any other time and no nuclear or thermonuclear weapons capable of leaving a cobalt radiation belt. Cobalt weapons by design have to come from a thermonuclear device (hydrogen bomb). MacArthur was fired in '51. The world's first H-bomb wasn't detonated until November 1, 1952. Mac was talking out his rearend.
 
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