Mormons

[alisonb]

I'm really curious, which God do Mormons worship? I've done quite a bit of reading on it but would like the views of others.

 

[Alan]

Mormons worship the same god as most folks along with Jesus Christ. They worship from the king James bible. Their book is called a "quad" for the four books they use; the old testament, the new testament, the Book of Mormon, and I don't recall the name of the fourth book. But it's all four books in one, just as the king James bible is two books in one.

 

[slick4591]

Mormons are Christian and believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. After that, like most Christian religions, things get off on different tracks. No theologian here, but that's my simple explanation. Looks like Alan gave you more than I knew.

 

[Alan]

Lots of Mormons in Oregon, Idaho, and Washington. And I'm sure other states surrounding Utah.

 

[TexasBred]

I'm really curious, which God do Mormons worship? I've done quite a bit of reading on it but would like the views of others.

They do have some different beliefs and some that I strongly disagree with BUT I always come back to "Ye shall know them by their fruits". Those I've known produced very good fruit. ;-)

 

[Alan]

I'm really curious, which God do Mormons worship? I've done quite a bit of reading on it but would like the views of others.

They do have some different beliefs and some that I strongly disagree with BUT I always come back to "Ye shall know them by their fruits". Those I've known produced very good fruit. ;-)

I agree with you on some of the Mormon beliefs, but I also feel the same way about most if not every religion.

 

[HOSS]

I have not known that many mormons but the ones that I have known were highly moral people. They always treated me well and were active in local charities. The ones that I knew were heavily into the commercial construction business and always had a good reputation as shrewd businessmen but straight shooters.

 

[Victoria]

"Mormonism is not Christian because it denies that there is only one God, denies the true Gospel, adds works to salvation, denies that Jesus is the uncreated creator, distorts the biblical teaching of the atonement, undermines the authority and reliability of the Bible, says that God used to be a man who came from another planet, that we can become gods, that there is a goddess mother in heaven, etc."
from the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry
For more information:
http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian

 

[TexasBred]

"Mormonism is not Christian because it denies that there is only one God, denies the true Gospel, adds works to salvation, denies that Jesus is the uncreated creator, distorts the biblical teaching of the atonement, undermines the authority and reliability of the Bible, says that God used to be a man who came from another planet, that we can become gods, that there is a goddess mother in heaven, etc."
from the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry
For more information:
http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian

You can always find a website or a person that will back up what you really want to believe.

For the curious, the dispute can be reduced to Jesus. Mormons assert that because they believe Jesus is divine, they are Christians by default. Christians respond that because Mormons don't believe — in accordance with the Nicene Creed promulgated in the fourth century — that Jesus is also the Father and the Holy Spirit, the Jesus that Mormons have in mind is someone else altogether. The Mormon reaction is incredulity. The Christian retort is exasperation. Rinse and repeat.

I am confident that I am not the only person — Mormon or Christian — who has had enough of the acrimonious niggling from both sides over the nature of the trinity, the authority of the creeds, the significance of grace and works, the union of Christ's divinity and humanity, and the real color of God's underwear.

 

[Limomike]

Mormons worship the same god as most folks along with Jesus Christ. They worship from the king James bible. Their book is called a "quad" for the four books they use; the old testament, the new testament, the Book of Mormon, and I don't recall the name of the fourth book. But it's all four books in one, just as the king James bible is two books in one.

Doctrine and Covenants.
I know all those books.. why? because I was born into a Mormon home. Grandfather was a preacher in a Mormon church. Yes, here in Oklahoma. There are some really great folks associated with that religion. My Dad (and I as well) realized about what the Mormon church and belief was all about, and denounced it about 20 years ago. He caught alot of flak from his family, but he stood his ground. But, I still dont knock the people as a group, because I know that most of them are truly good people.

 

[alisonb]

Thanks, I appreciate the different view points - I spose at the end of the day the most important is they are good people.

 

[ANAZAZI]

Doctrine and Covenants.
I know all those books.. why? because I was born into a Mormon home. Grandfather was a preacher in a Mormon church. Yes, here in Oklahoma. There are some really great folks associated with that religion. My Dad (and I as well) realized about what the Mormon church and belief was all about, and denounced it about 20 years ago. He caught alot of flak from his family, but he stood his ground. But, I still dont knock the people as a group, because I know that most of them are truly good people.

What was it all about?

 

[Limomike]

Doctrine and Covenants.
I know all those books.. why? because I was born into a Mormon home. Grandfather was a preacher in a Mormon church. Yes, here in Oklahoma. There are some really great folks associated with that religion. My Dad (and I as well) realized about what the Mormon church and belief was all about, and denounced it about 20 years ago. He caught alot of flak from his family, but he stood his ground. But, I still dont knock the people as a group, because I know that most of them are truly good people.

What was it all about?

Not going to get into all that on here. Too much to type, and I never did like discussing religion much.

 

[Alan]

"Mormonism is not Christian because it denies that there is only one God, denies the true Gospel, adds works to salvation, denies that Jesus is the uncreated creator, distorts the biblical teaching of the atonement, undermines the authority and reliability of the Bible, says that God used to be a man who came from another planet, that we can become gods, that there is a goddess mother in heaven, etc."
from the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry
For more information:
http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian

Complete and total brain wash or just total :bs: Mormons use and practice their religion as the King James version of the bible wrote, they celebrate the birth of Christ just as any other Christian does and believes Mary conceived thru immaculate conception. No offense meant Victoria, but I also spent many years in the Mormon Church and even did some work in a few temples. I quit going to church for the same reason many folks quit church, kids grew up and I did not agree with everything the church believed in and as I stated I don't believe in all that any religion believes in. But as a basis of getting closer to God it as good as many.

BTW, the last time I checked, it's been a few years, Mormon charities have the highest rate of dollars given going to said charities, meaning they have the highest % of a dollar reach said charity.

For the most part Mormons are good honest people, that's why in the early days of Vegas so many Mormons were hired to handle the financial end of the casinos. But like all religions Mormons are not without their Jerks and a-holes. Butch Cassidy was born into a Mormon family.

 

[James T]

Mormons worship the same god as most folks along with Jesus Christ. They worship from the king James bible. Their book is called a "quad" for the four books they use; the old testament, the new testament, the Book of Mormon, and I don't recall the name of the fourth book. But it's all four books in one, just as the king James bible is two books in one.

I don't think this is right, Alan. Victoria is more on the spot with what they believe-----> Jesus was just another prophet (just as Joseph Smith was) but not God. You could become a prophet and you could become a god but not God. Their interpretation of the Bible is different than that of most Christian interpretations. The Book of Mormon is their mainstay. A wonderful group of folks and more than happy to tell you all about their beliefs. But, keep in mind, that when they start explaining things to you, they go by way of 'milk before meat'.

 

[milkmaid]

As a preface, I live in an area that's 99% LDS (Mormon), have worked with and for many of them, and they're some really good people. They believe they're working their way to heaven, and as a consequence, they have high moral standards and are always willing to help a neighbor out. No complaints here!

That said, They don't worship the same God I do... they teach that Jesus and Satan were brothers and Jesus's "plan" for salvation was the better one that God picked, that Mormon men can eventually work their way to godhood where they have their own planet, that they're sealed to their spouse/children in the temple for time and all eternity, that there are spirit babies in heaven who are given bodies here on earth as they become available (yes, Mormons have very large families in areas with a high LDS population), etc, etc. I like them a lot but I believe that Jesus is God (there are a zillion references in the Bible to back that up), I believe that people cannot become gods, that there is no reproduction in heaven....

I don't know about the rest of you but that is a distinctly different set of beliefs than the ones I have. Nothing against the people, but we don't believe the same spiritual things.

 

[milkmaid]

Alan- Momons do use the KJV and believe the KJV is true, insofar as it is translated correctly. When there is a disagreement between the Bible and the Book of Mormon or D&C, the latter two books always win. If they could only have one book, they'd pick the Book of Mormon every time.

 

[Anonymous]

I read this since it was posted, debating on wether or not to jump in. I was raised morman until i moved out of my parents house at 16.
They are Christian. They believe in god. They believe that Christ came back to earth after the ressurection and continued to teach in the Americas. Specifically Central and south america. The book of morman is supposed to an accounting of those teachings. I don't agree with some of their teachings, but I agree with their emphasis in family, honesty etc. a person would be hard pressed to find a group of people that are nicer just to be nice. No alterior motives. But, as in any other group of people there are bad seeds as well. But for the most part they are honest, good, hard working people.

 

[Alan]

As a preface, I live in an area that's 99% LDS (Mormon), have worked with and for many of them, and they're some really good people. They believe they're working their way to heaven, and as a consequence, they have high moral standards and are always willing to help a neighbor out. No complaints here!

That said, They don't worship the same God I do... they teach that Jesus and Satan were brothers and Jesus's "plan" for salvation was the better one that God picked, that Mormon men can eventually work their way to godhood where they have their own planet,

Milkmaid this is a delicate thread that may need to get locked down, there is so much confusion about what Mormons believe and much of it created by some of the crack pot "so called" Mormons. Such as the off branch that still practices polygamy, which the Mormon church has denounced and not recognized for many years. Also the church, like most has their fair share of new members that claim to have talked to God as well as chickens, a spot on the wall and of course give me money types, just as all churches do. In my years in the church, which I left because not agreeing in some of their beliefs, I have never met a Bishop that ever said Mormons believe In different God, never heard anyone say Jesus was a brother to Satan, infact, it is and was taught to me the same as always, Satan was a angel cast from heaven to live in he!!, never a brother of Jesus. I was never taught Mormons would ever become a god and receive there own planet, the book of Mormon speaks in a short amount about a planet, if needed I'll google the name, but it was only mentioned in two verses and someone pointed to the stars, a planet in their mind, when someone asked where God lived, the response was something to the order of pointing and said he live there beyound the furthest sight. So the interpretation I was taught and was he was just pointing at the stars in the sky or it would have covered more than two verses. But your close, in one way, I was taught that with worship and work your soul will go to heaven and there are multiple levels of heaven, how high you go depends on how hard you work and serve ...... One thing I did not agree with.


that they're sealed to their spouse/children in the temple for time and all eternity, that there are spirit babies in heaven who are given bodies here on earth as they become available (yes, Mormons have very large families in areas with a high LDS population), etc, etc. I like them a lot but I believe that Jesus is God (there are a zillion references in the Bible to back that up), I believe that people cannot become gods, that there is no reproduction in heaven....

I don't know about the rest of you but that is a distinctly different set of beliefs than the ones I have. Nothing against the people, but we don't believe the same spiritual things.

 

[Alan]

Alan- Momons do use the KJV and believe the KJV is true, insofar as it is translated correctly. When there is a disagreement between the Bible and the Book of Mormon or D&C, the latter two books always win. If they could only have one book, they'd pick the Book of Mormon every time.

With that I basically agree, the interpretation of the KJV or the Book of Mormon was and is made so the members of the "church" could understand and follow. But the interpretation was in the speakers mind too often and I did not agree too often ..... And argued the point in a small class. fun! It created too much confusionjust as interpretation of the bible's changes in most all church's not just religions, interpretation of a reading varies from group to group in all religions, ask the Muslims. Their religion is based on the KJV, with THEIR beliefs holding to the book of Mormon, but the book of Mormon is nothing without the KJV, it's just a continuation of the KJV taught to Joseph Smith, which I also have a hard time with.