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<blockquote data-quote="smnherf" data-source="post: 755253" data-attributes="member: 3235"><p>My advice for what it is worth is to buy the bull on phenotype and genotype and if you can get the color pattern then take it. I see many times that people are paying a very big premium for the goggle eyes or the red legs and neck and sacrificing performance in the process.</p><p></p><p>15 years ago, I had a very dollar conscientous neighbor who would quite frequently buy bulls with white legs and sometimes even white up to the shoulders. They were always some of the better quality bulls but others penalized them and he bought them very cheap. When he bred them to generic black cows, you couldn't tell at all they were out of white legged bulls. </p><p></p><p>As far as having pigment on eyes as a protection against pinkeye and cancer eye, I wouldn't bet the farm on it either. Pinkeye is a bacterial infection that can thrive in any color cattle. I know of several angus breeders who have had to mass medicate their herd for it. I see herds that have hereford, blk and bwf calves and cows in a group and the incidence of pinkeye is prevalant in all them wether they were whiteface or not. Control the flies and keep your vitamin A level high and pinkeye is very manageable.</p><p></p><p>Cancer eye is a highly heritable disease. About .40 I think. I would much rather have a no pigmented cow with a history of no cancer eye than a goggle eyed cow whose mother had cancer eye.</p><p></p><p>The breeding of the angus can also affect the color pattern of the white on the face of the calf too. When we were AI ing angus on my dads hereford heifers, quite often some bulls would put a brockle face on all their calves while some bulls would consistently leave an open face on their calves.</p><p></p><p>Brian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smnherf, post: 755253, member: 3235"] My advice for what it is worth is to buy the bull on phenotype and genotype and if you can get the color pattern then take it. I see many times that people are paying a very big premium for the goggle eyes or the red legs and neck and sacrificing performance in the process. 15 years ago, I had a very dollar conscientous neighbor who would quite frequently buy bulls with white legs and sometimes even white up to the shoulders. They were always some of the better quality bulls but others penalized them and he bought them very cheap. When he bred them to generic black cows, you couldn't tell at all they were out of white legged bulls. As far as having pigment on eyes as a protection against pinkeye and cancer eye, I wouldn't bet the farm on it either. Pinkeye is a bacterial infection that can thrive in any color cattle. I know of several angus breeders who have had to mass medicate their herd for it. I see herds that have hereford, blk and bwf calves and cows in a group and the incidence of pinkeye is prevalant in all them wether they were whiteface or not. Control the flies and keep your vitamin A level high and pinkeye is very manageable. Cancer eye is a highly heritable disease. About .40 I think. I would much rather have a no pigmented cow with a history of no cancer eye than a goggle eyed cow whose mother had cancer eye. The breeding of the angus can also affect the color pattern of the white on the face of the calf too. When we were AI ing angus on my dads hereford heifers, quite often some bulls would put a brockle face on all their calves while some bulls would consistently leave an open face on their calves. Brian [/QUOTE]
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