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<blockquote data-quote="Ebenezer" data-source="post: 1394213" data-attributes="member: 24565"><p>If you think that CAB is Angus then look up specifications. Only has to be 51% black hide (so black baldies fall easily into the CAB <strong><u>look</u></strong>), no hump to keep out Brahman link, no dairy look and then on slaughter they have to grade. No requirement that it is ANGUS! A black baldie is CAB's best friend if the Angus genetics have been heavily sorted for high IMF and thus got low on REA. (The two traits are generally antagonists) So SimAngus, baldies, black balancers, ... are CAB eligible. There has been some recent fallout that some packers were using well finished Holstein or crosses that were 51% black. Must have been "profitable" to inspectors to let that happen.</p><p></p><p>Frame has been highly discussed and cussed on this site. The target steer in feedlots is huge compared to just a few years ago. The big ones help the packer. The packer can care less if the cow/calf guy is going broke growing pee wees, moderate sized cattle or monsters. The pee wees are a marketing scheme to entice the outsiders and the renegades to the last frontier of freedom and fist shaking at the established cattle system. More power to them but I do not plan to go along because somebody is "Anti-mainstream" to my own detriment. But I also know that monsters are not going to do here.</p><p></p><p><u>What the speaker was telling is true </u>in that there are alliances being formed where some feedyards and packers will pay more for cattle sired by a short list of herd prefix bulls. That type marketing efforts is a form of vertical intergration if you want to be like every chicken, egg, turkey and pork producer left in the USA in the mainstream. You can go that route and "work for the company". These alliances, if they get big enough, will suck the wind out of the sails of CAB and will surpass it in quality by having sourcing data for "consumer safety" and "quality assurance".</p><p></p><p>I have no love for CAB program as it is. It is a sham in that the cattle are never "pure Angus" but that is implied. It has been the great money maker, was only set up to increase the sale of registered Angus bulls and the AAA has become intoxicated by the money element of CAB to the hurt of the entire breed. Like all crime shows and reality TV, follow the money. It does not have to be all up and up until the curtain is pulled back and the light enters the scene.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ebenezer, post: 1394213, member: 24565"] If you think that CAB is Angus then look up specifications. Only has to be 51% black hide (so black baldies fall easily into the CAB [b][u]look[/u][/b]), no hump to keep out Brahman link, no dairy look and then on slaughter they have to grade. No requirement that it is ANGUS! A black baldie is CAB's best friend if the Angus genetics have been heavily sorted for high IMF and thus got low on REA. (The two traits are generally antagonists) So SimAngus, baldies, black balancers, ... are CAB eligible. There has been some recent fallout that some packers were using well finished Holstein or crosses that were 51% black. Must have been "profitable" to inspectors to let that happen. Frame has been highly discussed and cussed on this site. The target steer in feedlots is huge compared to just a few years ago. The big ones help the packer. The packer can care less if the cow/calf guy is going broke growing pee wees, moderate sized cattle or monsters. The pee wees are a marketing scheme to entice the outsiders and the renegades to the last frontier of freedom and fist shaking at the established cattle system. More power to them but I do not plan to go along because somebody is "Anti-mainstream" to my own detriment. But I also know that monsters are not going to do here. [u]What the speaker was telling is true [/u]in that there are alliances being formed where some feedyards and packers will pay more for cattle sired by a short list of herd prefix bulls. That type marketing efforts is a form of vertical intergration if you want to be like every chicken, egg, turkey and pork producer left in the USA in the mainstream. You can go that route and "work for the company". These alliances, if they get big enough, will suck the wind out of the sails of CAB and will surpass it in quality by having sourcing data for "consumer safety" and "quality assurance". I have no love for CAB program as it is. It is a sham in that the cattle are never "pure Angus" but that is implied. It has been the great money maker, was only set up to increase the sale of registered Angus bulls and the AAA has become intoxicated by the money element of CAB to the hurt of the entire breed. Like all crime shows and reality TV, follow the money. It does not have to be all up and up until the curtain is pulled back and the light enters the scene. [/QUOTE]
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