Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Forums
Cattle Boards
Artificial Insemination (AI) for Cattle
Moderate Frame
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Help Support CattleToday:
Message
<blockquote data-quote="simme" data-source="post: 1746151" data-attributes="member: 40418"><p>I still see ads that state a particular bull will "moderate frame". " Moderate" (noun) implies middle of the road. "Moderate frame" (moderate used as a verb) became a term years ago when people decided that 8+ frames were too big. At that time, a 6 frame bull would probably reduce (moderate) the frame of many cows. That is not likely today. Now, a 6 frame bull might increase the frame or at least maintain frame. The phrase is still used today when the average cow may be a 5 to 6 frame. That "moderate frame" meaning is dated now. Better to just publish the actual frame scores and let people decide for themselves. But hard to find that information on some bulls. </p><p></p><p> Matings generally produce an animal somewhere between the sire and dam in traits. But, there are outliers toward the ends of the probability curve that don't fit the average. Those are the animals that can make more rapid change - for better or worse. That is how we went from 3 and 4 frame to 8 and 10 frame - well that and some other genetic infusions perhaps.</p><p></p><p>Then there is the "improve feet" thing. Improve from what - pitiful, very bad, little bad, or OK?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simme, post: 1746151, member: 40418"] I still see ads that state a particular bull will "moderate frame". " Moderate" (noun) implies middle of the road. "Moderate frame" (moderate used as a verb) became a term years ago when people decided that 8+ frames were too big. At that time, a 6 frame bull would probably reduce (moderate) the frame of many cows. That is not likely today. Now, a 6 frame bull might increase the frame or at least maintain frame. The phrase is still used today when the average cow may be a 5 to 6 frame. That "moderate frame" meaning is dated now. Better to just publish the actual frame scores and let people decide for themselves. But hard to find that information on some bulls. Matings generally produce an animal somewhere between the sire and dam in traits. But, there are outliers toward the ends of the probability curve that don't fit the average. Those are the animals that can make more rapid change - for better or worse. That is how we went from 3 and 4 frame to 8 and 10 frame - well that and some other genetic infusions perhaps. Then there is the "improve feet" thing. Improve from what - pitiful, very bad, little bad, or OK? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Cattle Boards
Artificial Insemination (AI) for Cattle
Moderate Frame
Top