Mineral analysis part two.

True Grit Farms":1h5vugnn said:


A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks for the patience TB. The over consumption and salt part isn't ideal..or is it?
Dang you make it hard for an old man to read that fine print. lolol........nothing wrong with it at all. Compares closely to what I use as far as the guarantees. It contains your typical oxides and sulfates but also has some organic minerals in the form of "proteinates" which is good. Also has several strains of yeast in it which probably are not included in a sufficient amount to be "great" but certainly doesn't hurt to have them in the mix. If it's not grossly overpriced I see no reason to change.
 
pdfangus":2igrnzin said:
oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?
A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.
 
TexasBred":39gscrua said:
pdfangus":39gscrua said:
oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?
A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.

Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?
 
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TennesseeTuxedo":1m7mkmsb said:
TexasBred":1m7mkmsb said:
pdfangus":1m7mkmsb said:
oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?
A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.

Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?

Don't you start no shyt won't be no shyt . and you can put that in your signature line.
 
Thanks TB.....it has been a while since I reviewed any of that stuff.

as you list the three chelates it seems to me that the order of effectiveness is probably related to their stability.??
 
TennesseeTuxedo":kz6mpzev said:
TexasBred":kz6mpzev said:
pdfangus":kz6mpzev said:
oK WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHELATE AND A PROTEINATE ?
A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.

Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?
Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.
 
TexasBred":20uw2yuu said:
TennesseeTuxedo":20uw2yuu said:
TexasBred":20uw2yuu said:
A proteinate is actually one type of chelate. There are three types of chelates commonly used in the feed industry. Listed here in decending order of their effectivness in the diet:

Amino acid 'chelates’ typically use synthetic amino acids to deliver a chelated trace element (like zinc).

Proteinated chelates commonly are made using natural proteins to deliver chelated trace elements.

Polysaccharide chelates are natural carbohydrates bound to a trace element to deliver the chelated trace element.

Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?
Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.

You are a walking Encyclopedia. The youngsters here will have to go look that up.
 
TennesseeTuxedo":3j5xk3c9 said:
TexasBred":3j5xk3c9 said:
TennesseeTuxedo":3j5xk3c9 said:
Do you Google that stuff or carry it around in your head?
Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.

You are a walking Encyclopedia. The youngsters here will have to go look that up.

TB, even puts it out there where everyone should be able to understand what he says. Looking up those big fancy words some folks use is a waste of time.
 
"Looking up those big fancy words some folks use is a waste of time."

Heck, I thought chelated was a big fancy word the first time I saw TB use it......
 
True Grit Farms":vmepmri7 said:
TennesseeTuxedo":vmepmri7 said:
TexasBred":vmepmri7 said:
Well I've actually learned it over many years but sometimes it's more easily understood if I simply look up the most simple explanation. If I said it, it would fill up a half page and we would all still be confused.

You are a walking Encyclopedia. The youngsters here will have to go look that up.

TB, even puts it out there where everyone should be able to understand what he says. Looking up those big fancy words some folks use is a waste of time.
TGF, I R Simple" so simple words come much easier. Usually no more than two syllables if possible.
 
pdfangus":3r562q17 said:
Thanks TB.....it has been a while since I reviewed any of that stuff.

as you list the three chelates it seems to me that the order of effectiveness is probably related to their stability.??
True or the compounds they attach to can affect how well they are absorbed and how available they are for use in the body.
 

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