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<blockquote data-quote="denglish" data-source="post: 26713" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Logically if the water bag is protruding and you have gone to the trouble of getting the cow into the crush you have to get into it and diagnose what is happening. Get your arms in and palpate the feet. Break the bag if you have to but feel the feet: if they are fore legs the dewclaws will be under and if they are hind legs the dewclaws will be on top (visualise what the body will look like) and you can go up the leg and find the hock, or if front leg the knee. You can figure out where the head is and try to manipulate it to correct position - you need to push the head back to realign it, and you need strength. Rather than wait all day for the vet you need to get some practise and get the live calf out because it will be dead quickly if it is stuck and the placental blood supply is compromised. Most farmers here get out the majority of their stuck calves. Particularly if when they ring the vet they find that he can't come for some time. Not a lot to lose.</p><p></p><p>Cows are pretty tough you know: I did a calving once about 9 at night after the owners had been trying to get the calf all afternoon (pet angus x cow) and discovered that they had pulled off the end of the bottom jaw with the teeth of the calf which was wedged tight in an impossibly small pelvis. Did a caesar in the very crook old race by putting a rope halter on head and cutting out a few rails. Retrieved the calf quicklywhich was fine except for the jaw, and then mum pulled the haler off the rotten post, chucked a tantrum and did somersaults in the race and ended up putting her foot through the uterus and getting **** all over a lot of her intestines. Washed the uterus and gut well with buckets of water from the nearby creek (all this done by car headlights) with some chlorhexidine and some salt to approximate normal saline. Pushed it all back, threw in some pessaries, put a drain in bottom, stitched back up, injected antibiotics: mother and calf did well and the calf became a handfed pet. I was astounded when checking next day how well the cow was.</p><p></p><p>There are some authentic stories of cranky old cows with total prolapsed uteruses that have jumped out of races and left the uterus behind jammed between two posts. And they have been counted in the next muster. I have many stories of how tough cattle can be and yet some others just lie down and die.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="denglish, post: 26713, member: 326"] Logically if the water bag is protruding and you have gone to the trouble of getting the cow into the crush you have to get into it and diagnose what is happening. Get your arms in and palpate the feet. Break the bag if you have to but feel the feet: if they are fore legs the dewclaws will be under and if they are hind legs the dewclaws will be on top (visualise what the body will look like) and you can go up the leg and find the hock, or if front leg the knee. You can figure out where the head is and try to manipulate it to correct position - you need to push the head back to realign it, and you need strength. Rather than wait all day for the vet you need to get some practise and get the live calf out because it will be dead quickly if it is stuck and the placental blood supply is compromised. Most farmers here get out the majority of their stuck calves. Particularly if when they ring the vet they find that he can't come for some time. Not a lot to lose. Cows are pretty tough you know: I did a calving once about 9 at night after the owners had been trying to get the calf all afternoon (pet angus x cow) and discovered that they had pulled off the end of the bottom jaw with the teeth of the calf which was wedged tight in an impossibly small pelvis. Did a caesar in the very crook old race by putting a rope halter on head and cutting out a few rails. Retrieved the calf quicklywhich was fine except for the jaw, and then mum pulled the haler off the rotten post, chucked a tantrum and did somersaults in the race and ended up putting her foot through the uterus and getting **** all over a lot of her intestines. Washed the uterus and gut well with buckets of water from the nearby creek (all this done by car headlights) with some chlorhexidine and some salt to approximate normal saline. Pushed it all back, threw in some pessaries, put a drain in bottom, stitched back up, injected antibiotics: mother and calf did well and the calf became a handfed pet. I was astounded when checking next day how well the cow was. There are some authentic stories of cranky old cows with total prolapsed uteruses that have jumped out of races and left the uterus behind jammed between two posts. And they have been counted in the next muster. I have many stories of how tough cattle can be and yet some others just lie down and die. [/QUOTE]
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