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<blockquote data-quote="Bama" data-source="post: 79158" data-attributes="member: 1184"><p>I have sit out of this squabble, but I might as well put in my two cents worth. The ones of us that were around cattle in the 70's ( even though I was a young lad ) saw the cattle market bottom out. We learned to treat them as best as we could. We called the vet when It was over our heads. But most of the time we treated them with whatever we thought best. We made mistakes, but we also made money. This is a very diversified board. Some folks are dairymen others are purebred this or that. Some come from areas with green pastures nearly yearround. Some come from area's with snow as much as green grass. Different areas have differant diseases and parasites. There are stockers, cowcalf, and bulls only here. Not to mention what direction each person is trying to take thier herd. What works for me in Alabama will not work for some of our friends up north. As far as the questions I don't think anyone minds them. At one point we were all newbes. I have learned a lot from the people on this board, newbes included. I think the biggest thing that is getting some feathers rustled up is some folks giving advice that should be listening. Granted a lot of new technology has changed over the years but cattle still get born, eat, grow, and die. Most of the time in that order. A lot of new medications and methods have came into play in the last 20 years. But raising cattle has changed very little over this time. Their is a magic formula for making money on cattle. Its getting more out of them than you have in them. How this is done will change from area to area. A lot of the old timers know what works and are hardpressed to change. Myself included. If we put the exact amound of fertilizer, sew the best grass at the suggested rate, give all the suggested meds, and did everything by someone elses book we would all loose on our cattle. If we did everthing by their book the feed, drug, fertlizer, mineral, etc... companies would be getting all the profit. If an old timer has been in the business for at least 30 years, you can bet he has made some mistakes. He has learned from those mistakes as well or he would not still be in the business. I take what they say in very high reqards. The biggest thing to think about is. Does it apply to me. What area, what operation, ( farm, ranch, or hobby.. call it what you want he don't really care ), what are his goals. Those should be considered. If it worked for him, chances are it will work for me. I will add as well, to be politically correct, there are some intelligent cattle women on this board as well. I think this board is great for someone getting in to the business. But doing a little searching will save some of the bickering over a question that has been answered a hundred times over. Sorry but I have never been one to surpress my opions, right or wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bama, post: 79158, member: 1184"] I have sit out of this squabble, but I might as well put in my two cents worth. The ones of us that were around cattle in the 70's ( even though I was a young lad ) saw the cattle market bottom out. We learned to treat them as best as we could. We called the vet when It was over our heads. But most of the time we treated them with whatever we thought best. We made mistakes, but we also made money. This is a very diversified board. Some folks are dairymen others are purebred this or that. Some come from areas with green pastures nearly yearround. Some come from area's with snow as much as green grass. Different areas have differant diseases and parasites. There are stockers, cowcalf, and bulls only here. Not to mention what direction each person is trying to take thier herd. What works for me in Alabama will not work for some of our friends up north. As far as the questions I don't think anyone minds them. At one point we were all newbes. I have learned a lot from the people on this board, newbes included. I think the biggest thing that is getting some feathers rustled up is some folks giving advice that should be listening. Granted a lot of new technology has changed over the years but cattle still get born, eat, grow, and die. Most of the time in that order. A lot of new medications and methods have came into play in the last 20 years. But raising cattle has changed very little over this time. Their is a magic formula for making money on cattle. Its getting more out of them than you have in them. How this is done will change from area to area. A lot of the old timers know what works and are hardpressed to change. Myself included. If we put the exact amound of fertilizer, sew the best grass at the suggested rate, give all the suggested meds, and did everything by someone elses book we would all loose on our cattle. If we did everthing by their book the feed, drug, fertlizer, mineral, etc... companies would be getting all the profit. If an old timer has been in the business for at least 30 years, you can bet he has made some mistakes. He has learned from those mistakes as well or he would not still be in the business. I take what they say in very high reqards. The biggest thing to think about is. Does it apply to me. What area, what operation, ( farm, ranch, or hobby.. call it what you want he don't really care ), what are his goals. Those should be considered. If it worked for him, chances are it will work for me. I will add as well, to be politically correct, there are some intelligent cattle women on this board as well. I think this board is great for someone getting in to the business. But doing a little searching will save some of the bickering over a question that has been answered a hundred times over. Sorry but I have never been one to surpress my opions, right or wrong. [/QUOTE]
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