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<blockquote data-quote="3waycross" data-source="post: 858769" data-attributes="member: 6713"><p>Just this one AAA16085653....who by the way has a CED of 9 and is a REAL heifer bull despite his very respectable carcass and growth numbers. I have been using him for 3 years on all of my cows and about 20 for other folks and he has yet to throw a calf over 72lbs. I selected him from a field of 90 very good yearling Angus bulls for his excellent phenotype and his balanced epd's. The only thing I would change on him is his milk(lower) and his growth numbers(a little higher) Any other questions? </p><p>FWIW I have absolutely nothing against Angus either as a breed or individually. Sadly for you I do know how to read both angus and Gelbvieh EPD's and I am telling you here and now an Angus bull with a CED EPD under 5 is not considered a heifer bull by anyone in I know and that includes folks who ACTUALLY own 5000 commercial Angus cows down to some real solid Angus seedstock operators with well managed herds of 100 to 150 head. Not one of them would even consider using a bull with(in this case) a projected CED epd of 2 or possibly 3 on a heifer. I don't care what the AAA propaganda tells you, it's bad business and when you come on here and say things like you did here it just makes more beginners make the same mistakes over and over again.</p><p></p><p><strong>MY ANGUS BULL</strong> who BTW is for sale in case you want to own an <strong>ACTUAL HEIFER BULL</strong><img src="http://ranchers.net/photopost/data/500/medium/100_0112.JPG" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="3waycross, post: 858769, member: 6713"] Just this one AAA16085653....who by the way has a CED of 9 and is a REAL heifer bull despite his very respectable carcass and growth numbers. I have been using him for 3 years on all of my cows and about 20 for other folks and he has yet to throw a calf over 72lbs. I selected him from a field of 90 very good yearling Angus bulls for his excellent phenotype and his balanced epd's. The only thing I would change on him is his milk(lower) and his growth numbers(a little higher) Any other questions? FWIW I have absolutely nothing against Angus either as a breed or individually. Sadly for you I do know how to read both angus and Gelbvieh EPD's and I am telling you here and now an Angus bull with a CED EPD under 5 is not considered a heifer bull by anyone in I know and that includes folks who ACTUALLY own 5000 commercial Angus cows down to some real solid Angus seedstock operators with well managed herds of 100 to 150 head. Not one of them would even consider using a bull with(in this case) a projected CED epd of 2 or possibly 3 on a heifer. I don't care what the AAA propaganda tells you, it's bad business and when you come on here and say things like you did here it just makes more beginners make the same mistakes over and over again. [b]MY ANGUS BULL[/b] who BTW is for sale in case you want to own an [b]ACTUAL HEIFER BULL[/b][img]http://ranchers.net/photopost/data/500/medium/100_0112.JPG[/img] [/QUOTE]
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