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<blockquote data-quote="Texan" data-source="post: 118881" data-attributes="member: 416"><p>It has to do with <em>time</em>, preston. <em>Time</em> that it takes to complete your processing. The more you've got to do, the longer it takes. I'm sure that even you can figure that one out, right? Processing <em>time</em> is an important factor in how calves respond to vaccines because of stress, preston. Not to mention the respiratory irritants like dust that increase with that <em>time</em>. You take all the <em>time</em> you want to with yours, preston. But for me, I prefer to get my <em>last</em> calf out of the chute and turned out in a clean grass trap as close as I can to when the <em>first</em> one leaves the chute. But, if <em>you</em> like having your calves standing around breathing all the dust and being under stress longer, you can ass around and thump syringes all you want to.</p><p></p><p>It's my position that except for volumes of trapped air large enough to affect dosages or push vaccine back out the injection site, it does not matter if you inject a few air bubbles with a vaccine. Do you possess credible research to the contrary? I've already asked you once to produce it and you haven't. I'll keep waiting. Anyway, if you have volumes of trapped air large enough to affect dosages, <em>you</em> need to work on drawing technique and purge that air before you start. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I made the comments because you gave out wrong information, preston. A "micro" of air, as you stated initially, never has caused injection site knots for me and many others. If you have research to prove differently, I'd like to see it. In fact, I <em>need</em> to see it. </p><p></p><p></p><p>We can certainly agree that animals should always be treated right, preston. But putting a few air bubbles in with a vaccine isn't wrong, as you suggest. If <em>you</em> want to be that meticulous about your technique, that's fine. I don't care what you do. But I contend that it's unnecessary to do that and that it doesn't hurt anything to get a few air bubbles under the skin. How do you suggest we keep air out from under the skin when using implants, preston? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Teach me something, preston. Show me the research to help me learn, please. Teach me to be a syringe-thumping cattleman just like you. While pens full of calves watch me through the dust, wondering how much longer this is gonna take. LOL Get real, preston. Those few seconds might not matter to the first calf, or even the tenth calf. But when you do enough of them, you have wasted a Helluva lot of <em>time</em>. Work 'em and get 'em turned out. You'll be rewarded with healthier calves, in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Texan, post: 118881, member: 416"] It has to do with [i]time[/i], preston. [i]Time[/i] that it takes to complete your processing. The more you've got to do, the longer it takes. I'm sure that even you can figure that one out, right? Processing [i]time[/i] is an important factor in how calves respond to vaccines because of stress, preston. Not to mention the respiratory irritants like dust that increase with that [i]time[/i]. You take all the [i]time[/i] you want to with yours, preston. But for me, I prefer to get my [i]last[/i] calf out of the chute and turned out in a clean grass trap as close as I can to when the [i]first[/i] one leaves the chute. But, if [i]you[/i] like having your calves standing around breathing all the dust and being under stress longer, you can ass around and thump syringes all you want to. It's my position that except for volumes of trapped air large enough to affect dosages or push vaccine back out the injection site, it does not matter if you inject a few air bubbles with a vaccine. Do you possess credible research to the contrary? I've already asked you once to produce it and you haven't. I'll keep waiting. Anyway, if you have volumes of trapped air large enough to affect dosages, [i]you[/i] need to work on drawing technique and purge that air before you start. I made the comments because you gave out wrong information, preston. A "micro" of air, as you stated initially, never has caused injection site knots for me and many others. If you have research to prove differently, I'd like to see it. In fact, I [i]need[/i] to see it. We can certainly agree that animals should always be treated right, preston. But putting a few air bubbles in with a vaccine isn't wrong, as you suggest. If [i]you[/i] want to be that meticulous about your technique, that's fine. I don't care what you do. But I contend that it's unnecessary to do that and that it doesn't hurt anything to get a few air bubbles under the skin. How do you suggest we keep air out from under the skin when using implants, preston? Teach me something, preston. Show me the research to help me learn, please. Teach me to be a syringe-thumping cattleman just like you. While pens full of calves watch me through the dust, wondering how much longer this is gonna take. LOL Get real, preston. Those few seconds might not matter to the first calf, or even the tenth calf. But when you do enough of them, you have wasted a Helluva lot of [i]time[/i]. Work 'em and get 'em turned out. You'll be rewarded with healthier calves, in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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