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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 530450" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>Pharo is suggesting getting big cows small in one generation by using Low Lines bulls to radically down size the heifer crop. </p><p></p><p>"Machine is an extremely stout and powerful fullblood Lowline. We sold more semen out of Machine last year than any other bull in our entire AI lineup. Some refer to Lowline Angus as miniature Angus. I don't like that term because it gives the wrong connotation. Lowline Angus are the real deal, and I believe they have a definite place in today's beef industry. We have used Machine on our 6-frame cows to produce thick, easy-fleshing, 3-frame offspring — in one generation. That saves years of time!"</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.pharocattle.com/Semen-Source-2008/angus.htm#machine" target="_blank">http://www.pharocattle.com/Semen-Source ... tm#machine</a></p><p></p><p>To me if you have 100 1600 lb cows and wanted 100 1000 lb cows it would make more sense to sell your big bred cow herd in a replacement sale and turn around and put that money in frame 3 heifers. Less heterozygosity and less wait that way and you might even make a little money on the deal. Even Pharo warns though that frame 1 and smaller steers fall outside of industry parameters (no matter how efficient they are) and will be docked</p><p></p><p>"The optimum cow size at Pharo Cattle Company is a 2 to 4 frame cow that weighs 1000 to 1200</p><p>pounds. Cows that are bigger than this are not efficient or profitable enough to carry their own weight.</p><p>Cows that are smaller than this, even though they are extremely efficient, may produce calves that are</p><p>too small to work well in the existing corn-based system."</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.pharocattle.com/Jan_Feb_2008.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.pharocattle.com/Jan_Feb_2008.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 530450, member: 7645"] Pharo is suggesting getting big cows small in one generation by using Low Lines bulls to radically down size the heifer crop. "Machine is an extremely stout and powerful fullblood Lowline. We sold more semen out of Machine last year than any other bull in our entire AI lineup. Some refer to Lowline Angus as miniature Angus. I don’t like that term because it gives the wrong connotation. Lowline Angus are the real deal, and I believe they have a definite place in today’s beef industry. We have used Machine on our 6-frame cows to produce thick, easy-fleshing, 3-frame offspring — in one generation. That saves years of time!" [url=http://www.pharocattle.com/Semen-Source-2008/angus.htm#machine]http://www.pharocattle.com/Semen-Source ... tm#machine[/url] To me if you have 100 1600 lb cows and wanted 100 1000 lb cows it would make more sense to sell your big bred cow herd in a replacement sale and turn around and put that money in frame 3 heifers. Less heterozygosity and less wait that way and you might even make a little money on the deal. Even Pharo warns though that frame 1 and smaller steers fall outside of industry parameters (no matter how efficient they are) and will be docked "The optimum cow size at Pharo Cattle Company is a 2 to 4 frame cow that weighs 1000 to 1200 pounds. Cows that are bigger than this are not efficient or profitable enough to carry their own weight. Cows that are smaller than this, even though they are extremely efficient, may produce calves that are too small to work well in the existing corn-based system." [url=http://www.pharocattle.com/Jan_Feb_2008.pdf]http://www.pharocattle.com/Jan_Feb_2008.pdf[/url] [/QUOTE]
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