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<blockquote data-quote="DiamondSCattleCo" data-source="post: 638025" data-attributes="member: 2862"><p>Its important to note that NO manufacturer, whether it be Agco, Dear Johnnie, Case/NH, or, in Rusty's example, Vicon have their own bearing or belt plant. Every single bearing used by equipment manufacturers has been built by someone else like SKF, NTN, Goodyear, or Dayco. And there aren't as many "specialized" parts being used anymore. PTO shafts, hitch parts, wheel hubs, etc etc are often interchangeable between breeds. You'll be able to tell a specialized part manufactured for a specific purpose, as it likely won't have a manfacturer part number stamped anywhere on it. Thats not a hard and fast rule though, as some manufacturers will stamp their part number on it, but it will be "restricted" and not available anywhere else. In the case of AgCo belts, special belts built to a certain tolerance, size or material will have a big old "SPECIAL" stamped right on the belt. This likely means they are a Kevlar blended belt, however it could mean an off-beat size too.</p><p></p><p>It is important to note that not all bearings are created equal though, nor are the prices the same. A really good example are the hex shaft bearings used on New Idea/Hesston/Case lower rollers on the older soft core balers (Hesston 565, New Idea 4865, Case/IH 8480). Those bearings were built by SKF for New Idea, who then sold them to Case and Hesston. So the bearing through an AgCo dealership will cost you 28 bucks, through a Case dealer they'll be 48 bucks, and through your local NAPA store, they'll be over 50 bucks. Exact same bearing, right down to the SKF part number stamped on the race, but completely different pricing depending on licensing. That won't always be the case though. An SKF 6203-2RS is available downtown at NAPA for about 12 bucks, whereas the Massey equivalent part number 341745m91 (PN is an example, don't recall the actual AgCo number) is 22 bucks. When you pull the bearing out, its got the SKF 6203-2RS stamped on the inner race. Some dealers will try and BS you and say their parts are built to a higher standard, but don't listen to them: An SKF 6203-2RS is an SKF 6203-2RS, no matter where its used.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, there will be cheaper versions of a 6203-2RS bearing being built elsewhere in the world under a different manufacturer like RKF. So pay attention to what you're putting in. Cheaper bearings will use fewer, larger balls with thinner races and lower quality/less grease. Their rubber seals will likely be more brittle or not to proper tolerance. So if you're having bearing issues with a machine, there may not be anything wrong with the machine per se, but rather the bearing may be of poor construction. Step up to a good manufacturer like SKF or NTN. I'm not aware of any of the large manufacturers that use low end bearing stock, but watch the off-breed stuff.</p><p></p><p>Rod</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DiamondSCattleCo, post: 638025, member: 2862"] Its important to note that NO manufacturer, whether it be Agco, Dear Johnnie, Case/NH, or, in Rusty's example, Vicon have their own bearing or belt plant. Every single bearing used by equipment manufacturers has been built by someone else like SKF, NTN, Goodyear, or Dayco. And there aren't as many "specialized" parts being used anymore. PTO shafts, hitch parts, wheel hubs, etc etc are often interchangeable between breeds. You'll be able to tell a specialized part manufactured for a specific purpose, as it likely won't have a manfacturer part number stamped anywhere on it. Thats not a hard and fast rule though, as some manufacturers will stamp their part number on it, but it will be "restricted" and not available anywhere else. In the case of AgCo belts, special belts built to a certain tolerance, size or material will have a big old "SPECIAL" stamped right on the belt. This likely means they are a Kevlar blended belt, however it could mean an off-beat size too. It is important to note that not all bearings are created equal though, nor are the prices the same. A really good example are the hex shaft bearings used on New Idea/Hesston/Case lower rollers on the older soft core balers (Hesston 565, New Idea 4865, Case/IH 8480). Those bearings were built by SKF for New Idea, who then sold them to Case and Hesston. So the bearing through an AgCo dealership will cost you 28 bucks, through a Case dealer they'll be 48 bucks, and through your local NAPA store, they'll be over 50 bucks. Exact same bearing, right down to the SKF part number stamped on the race, but completely different pricing depending on licensing. That won't always be the case though. An SKF 6203-2RS is available downtown at NAPA for about 12 bucks, whereas the Massey equivalent part number 341745m91 (PN is an example, don't recall the actual AgCo number) is 22 bucks. When you pull the bearing out, its got the SKF 6203-2RS stamped on the inner race. Some dealers will try and BS you and say their parts are built to a higher standard, but don't listen to them: An SKF 6203-2RS is an SKF 6203-2RS, no matter where its used. Having said that, there will be cheaper versions of a 6203-2RS bearing being built elsewhere in the world under a different manufacturer like RKF. So pay attention to what you're putting in. Cheaper bearings will use fewer, larger balls with thinner races and lower quality/less grease. Their rubber seals will likely be more brittle or not to proper tolerance. So if you're having bearing issues with a machine, there may not be anything wrong with the machine per se, but rather the bearing may be of poor construction. Step up to a good manufacturer like SKF or NTN. I'm not aware of any of the large manufacturers that use low end bearing stock, but watch the off-breed stuff. Rod [/QUOTE]
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