Looking for a unique breed

[mra1977]

Hi! I'm a graduate student and one of my projects is to come up with a unique breed. I have on my list Charolais, Salorn, Chianina as my crosses. I'm curious to get feedback both positive and negative. I would greatly appreciate your opinions. Thank you!

 

[IluvABbeef]

What are the goals of this unique breed? What sort of things do you want to achieve in this unique breed as far as carcass characteristics, maternal traits, crossbreeding, etc. are concerned? Are you more interested in creating a breed that is highly competitive in the feedlot versus Angus or other established breeds and has excellent carcass merits? Any sort of questions like that should be answered before we get into the mix of deciding whether these breeds are good, in your terms, for the creation of a fictional unique breed.

As far as I'm concerned I'm not a fan of any of them because of their huge frame size and temperament issues that are most likely at play (esp. with the chars and chianinas) with these breeds. But that's just me and my opinion.

 

[mra1977]

Thanks for asking questions.

I'm looking at creating a breed that is highly competitive in the feedlot versus Angus or other established breeds and has excellent carcass merits. I would like to bring in maternal traits, docility, calving ease, and rapid weight gain. Disease resistance is a definite plus.

I agree the three breeds I started this post with are not popular with temperment and frame. I have about 10 I am looking at so far and are not sequestered to the three I listed before. Here are the others I've jotted down as far as breeds I'm researching:

Beefalo, Belgian Blue, Blond d' Aquitaine, Gelbvieh, Parthenais, Pinzgauer, Saler, Salorn, Florida Cracker, and Lowlines. I understand the last two are smaller framed cattle. I have them on my list as a back-up incase I choose to scrap my original "terminal" plan. Also, this is to be a creative breed and thought to have never been crossed before.

 

[IluvABbeef]

How many breeds do you have to use to get to this fictional breed? Just three or can you go more than that?

As for your project (and I'm just throwing this out there), a breed that is a cross with Gelbvieh, Canchim and Limousin or Gelbvieh, Limousin, Partenais, Canchim and Beefalo may make a cross that you're looking for. But I'll let some others get in on this.

 

[ga.prime]

I take it you're just doing this hypothetically?

 

[ALACOWMAN]

if your shooting for carcass quailty, you better not get to much continentals in the mix ...granted they will get you the growth

 

[piedmontese]

i have saler cattle and love em.no problems with temperment at all.very healthy and easy doing.never pulled a saler or saler x calf.

 

[IluvABbeef]

Ga, I believe this is just a fictional breed MRA is creating for some sort of research paper of theirs.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Interesting project. Where are you in grad school?

 

[Santas and Duhram Reds]

I did something similar to this in one of my classes. I would go with some kind of composite where an American breed is about 1/4 of your breed and the remainder being all british of some sort. Example: 1/2 Gert 1/2 Hereford bred to a Durham Red.

 

[u4411clb]

1/2 Ultrablack and 1/4 Charlois and 1/4 Chianina and there you have a terminal sire to put on English crosses in the south.

 

[mra1977]

Thank you for your suggestions! Keep them coming! There wasn't a limit but I'm looking at no more than 4 crosses. I am really leaning towards Beefalo and Gelbvieh. Maybe with Pinzgauer?

 

[JeffMills517]

I see what you are after with the Gelbvieh, Pinzgauer, and Beefalo mix. The problem I see with it is too much continental influence compared to british. And the Pinzgauer will probably leave a dorsal stripe...don't know if that matters to you or not.

 

[CSM]

Just for fun, Pinzgauer and Belted Galloway. White stripe down the back and a white belt, they would be interesting.

CSM

 

[mlazyj]

Skunk with a seat belt. Super Baldy x Char . That gives you 4 , with out all the names.

 

[andybob]

Select a breed from one of these pure and composites, the video section has Veldmaster pictures all are bred for foraging ability, fertility and beef quality.
http://sangacattle.webs.com/apps/photos/

 

[Gale Seddon]

I am also wondering about the imaginary factor. But, if real life, has anyone found out where this OP is, and wouldn't that make a difference on this crossing business?

 

[JWestCows]

Well, I wrote a lengthy response promoting the consideration of the British White breed in your project, but lost the whole thing after clicking Preview, so....... to make it short - think about the British White breed in your new composite bovine. They are very docile, feed efficient as backed up by DNA testing, and have excellent carcass traits. I raise them, so of course I am biased, but that said, any new breed development would do well to look to this very old breed as one of consequence to the future.

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[BIZIN]

My two sense. Take a beefalo, use a 1/2 wood bison, 1/2 plains bison animal crossed with a black gelbvieh. Then use the females out of that cross and breed them with a 1/2 horned hereford, 1/2 welsh black bull. U get the disease resistance you are looking for, easy keeping, and do ability of the bison, the milk, growth, and gain of a gelbvieh, the mothering, hardiness, docility, and sheer good looks of the horned hereford, and you get the thickness, hair, docility and carcass quality from the welsh black. Its a cross I am starting to work on that I think has some real merit. Not for everybody but I think they will do for me.

 

[Roadapple]

Check out, Lamunecacattle.com and their Simbravieh's.