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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 6407"><p>> Johe S. I believe if you breed</p><p>> pure Black Angus with any breed</p><p>> that is polled and black the calf</p><p>> will always be black and polled...</p><p>> Nothing else can result, except a</p><p>> mutant(albino,etc.) or so I was</p><p>> taught in my genetic classes. As a</p><p>> commerical cattle breeded I would</p><p>> also want my cow to be F1 crosses</p><p>> breed to a third breed Bulls for</p><p>> termial crossed calf.. In Example</p><p>> Black Baldies crossed to a Black</p><p>> Simm., Limms. Bulls.That seems to</p><p>> be the data coming out of all the</p><p>> collages on cattle breeding...So I</p><p>> breed my pure blooded Black Angus</p><p>> to a polled Hereford Bulls to</p><p>> produce F1 black baldies cross</p><p>> back to Black Limms. In the deep</p><p>> south I think F1 Hereford X</p><p>> Bramahs cows cross to a Black</p><p>> angus bulls to produce a Black</p><p>> Baldies without to much ear would</p><p>> also be the trick... But the</p><p>> biggest point I want to make is (</p><p>> this statement is a little strong,</p><p>> but I believe correct) ALL BLACK</p><p>> POLLED BEEF cattle have Black</p><p>> Angus in the back ground or</p><p>> Simms,Limms,Gelvieh,Branviah would</p><p>> still have the colors that I saw</p><p>> in the Late 70,s They would not be</p><p>> BLACK AND POLLED...2nd when CAB</p><p>> was started their requirments</p><p>> would have been different but they</p><p>> could not see or forcast the fact</p><p>> that all these other breeds were</p><p>> going to turn black and polled. It</p><p>> is not CAB programs fault that</p><p>> other breeds were going to pretend</p><p>> to be BLACK ANGUS...I also think</p><p>> the reason this happened is CAB</p><p>> marketing, but reguardless of the</p><p>> marketing if BLACK ANGUS were not</p><p>> a great breed the CAB program</p><p>> would not have been such a great</p><p>> success story.. And</p><p>> simms,limms,gelvieh,bramveih would</p><p>> not want to be black, the fact</p><p>> that they do is reason enough</p><p>> (proof) That Black Angus are great</p><p>> cattle... alf You need to study your basic cattle genetics book a little more. Some Angus cattle carry a recessive gene for red color( where Red Angus come from). When 2 of these animals are bred they have a chance of producing a red animal about 25% of the time. A fair number of the other black breeds that are bred up from Angus and Limo., Simmy, Saler, etc. also carry a recessive red gene so you will not always get a black calf from breeding Angus to another black breed.</p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:clifflem@yahoo.com">clifflem@yahoo.com</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 6407"] > Johe S. I believe if you breed > pure Black Angus with any breed > that is polled and black the calf > will always be black and polled... > Nothing else can result, except a > mutant(albino,etc.) or so I was > taught in my genetic classes. As a > commerical cattle breeded I would > also want my cow to be F1 crosses > breed to a third breed Bulls for > termial crossed calf.. In Example > Black Baldies crossed to a Black > Simm., Limms. Bulls.That seems to > be the data coming out of all the > collages on cattle breeding...So I > breed my pure blooded Black Angus > to a polled Hereford Bulls to > produce F1 black baldies cross > back to Black Limms. In the deep > south I think F1 Hereford X > Bramahs cows cross to a Black > angus bulls to produce a Black > Baldies without to much ear would > also be the trick... But the > biggest point I want to make is ( > this statement is a little strong, > but I believe correct) ALL BLACK > POLLED BEEF cattle have Black > Angus in the back ground or > Simms,Limms,Gelvieh,Branviah would > still have the colors that I saw > in the Late 70,s They would not be > BLACK AND POLLED...2nd when CAB > was started their requirments > would have been different but they > could not see or forcast the fact > that all these other breeds were > going to turn black and polled. It > is not CAB programs fault that > other breeds were going to pretend > to be BLACK ANGUS...I also think > the reason this happened is CAB > marketing, but reguardless of the > marketing if BLACK ANGUS were not > a great breed the CAB program > would not have been such a great > success story.. And > simms,limms,gelvieh,bramveih would > not want to be black, the fact > that they do is reason enough > (proof) That Black Angus are great > cattle... alf You need to study your basic cattle genetics book a little more. Some Angus cattle carry a recessive gene for red color( where Red Angus come from). When 2 of these animals are bred they have a chance of producing a red animal about 25% of the time. A fair number of the other black breeds that are bred up from Angus and Limo., Simmy, Saler, etc. also carry a recessive red gene so you will not always get a black calf from breeding Angus to another black breed. [email=clifflem@yahoo.com]clifflem@yahoo.com[/email] [/QUOTE]
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