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<blockquote data-quote="VanC" data-source="post: 852580" data-attributes="member: 3355"><p>If you're talking about concealed carry laws then you're wrong. Wisconsin recently passed a concealed carry law that will take effect in Nov of 2011. California leaves it up to the individual counties. The vast majority of them allow concealed carry and have for quite some time. Remember, what you see and hear about places like San Francisco are the exact opposite of the way things are in most of the state. Pretty much the same in New York state. The individual counties have a lot of leeway in issuing permits, and most of them do. You can even get a concealed carry permit in NYC but, from what I've read, you either have to be very wealthy or have political influence to get one. Doesn't do much for the average joe. </p><p></p><p>Sadly for me, that leaves only Illinois that does not have some form of concealed carry. We're trying. A bill for concealed carry almost passed last spring but our governor (yes, he's part of the Chicago machine) said he would veto it anyway. There are challenges in the courts, too, but as long as we keep putting Chicago people in office it's gonna be a long, hard struggle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VanC, post: 852580, member: 3355"] If you're talking about concealed carry laws then you're wrong. Wisconsin recently passed a concealed carry law that will take effect in Nov of 2011. California leaves it up to the individual counties. The vast majority of them allow concealed carry and have for quite some time. Remember, what you see and hear about places like San Francisco are the exact opposite of the way things are in most of the state. Pretty much the same in New York state. The individual counties have a lot of leeway in issuing permits, and most of them do. You can even get a concealed carry permit in NYC but, from what I've read, you either have to be very wealthy or have political influence to get one. Doesn't do much for the average joe. Sadly for me, that leaves only Illinois that does not have some form of concealed carry. We're trying. A bill for concealed carry almost passed last spring but our governor (yes, he's part of the Chicago machine) said he would veto it anyway. There are challenges in the courts, too, but as long as we keep putting Chicago people in office it's gonna be a long, hard struggle. [/QUOTE]
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