Live from the fire line

[Deepsouth]

Been burning the last couple of weekends. Burned about 100 acres today.





Before and after in the same picture.

 

[SmokinM]

Why do you burn it off? In Virginia they won't hardly buy timber that has had fire go thru it. Just curious I know you guys have a lot more managed pine forests down there.

 

[greybeard]

Theory is, that it helps keep the bugs out of timber, keeps the brush down and provides more water and nutrients for the timber as well as for the spring grasses.
I can't do it here, since my nearest neighbor and I share a property line and they are US National Forest. THEY can burn it, but I better not ever light a match to it or let one of my sparks get in the pine needles that belong to them. I'd be under the jail before the smoke started dying down.

 

[Deepsouth]

What Greybeard said. It's also a safety measure by reducing the underbrush and litter there is less chance of wildfire. We have three kinds of pine here. Two we have to be careful burning under but longleaf can handle fire very well. The main reason we burn is because the woods get so thick you can't crawl through them if we don't. Even burning they are still thick.

 

[skyhightree1]

DS some years ago we lost almost 200 acres of pines due to a fire caused by blown transformer sparks hit broom straw then burnt nearly 10,000 acres if I remember right. Do you remember that smokin?

 

[ga.prime]

Fire cleans it up so you can see through the trees and walk through the trees. Vines are one of the worst obstructions in the woods around here and fire gets them gone. Also gets rid of young volunteer pine saplings. Deepsouth, how did you keep the fire from crossing that road with the pine straw in it?

 

[Deepsouth]

What kind of pine y'all got up there sky? Virginia pine? Is that a yellow pine or white pine? Ga, we lite the fire when there is little or no wind and follow with a sprayer and put it out. Your right about the vines. They are a scurge around here.

Oh, I forgot to mention that turkeys love burns!

 

[ga.prime]

Nice work, Deep. You're right, turkeys like it and quail do too.

 

[SmokinM]

I do remember that big fire. We have Virginia, Shortleaf, and Loblolly pines. All the planted stands are Loblolly pine. From what I have been told it leaves a ring in the trees when there is fire and also does something to the sap that makes it hard to cut. It ruins the value as saw timber. Maybe I am mistaken and it only applies to hardwood timber. I do know what you mean about thick the green briers up here make you think your trying to get out of prison some places.

 

[skyhightree1]

What kind of pine y'all got up there sky? Virginia pine? Is that a yellow pine or white pine? Ga, we lite the fire when there is little or no wind and follow with a sprayer and put it out. Your right about the vines. They are a scurge around here.

Oh, I forgot to mention that turkeys love burns!

we had yellow pines that burnt up. However you can find multiple species here.

 

[Deepsouth]

I do remember that big fire. We have Virginia, Shortleaf, and Loblolly pines. All the planted stands are Loblolly pine. From what I have been told it leaves a ring in the trees when there is fire and also does something to the sap that makes it hard to cut. It ruins the value as saw timber. Maybe I am mistaken and it only applies to hardwood timber. I do know what you mean about thick the green briers up here make you think your trying to get out of prison some places.

we burnt loblolly today. You have to be careful with it. Burn it with a back fire on higher humidity day's. Burning will not affect sawlog quality but some pulpwood mills will not take wood with burnt bark. I don't know why but I've noticed they're not as picky about it when they're inventory is low. Fire is bad for hardwood but we don't have much hardwood here and what hardwood we do have grows in the wetter area's.

 

[skyhightree1]

most of pines here go to pulp or. making of telephone poles.

 

[greybeard]

What kind of pine y'all got up there sky? Virginia pine? Is that a yellow pine or white pine? Ga, we lite the fire when there is little or no wind and follow with a sprayer and put it out. Your right about the vines. They are a scurge around here.

Oh, I forgot to mention that turkeys love burns!

we had yellow pines that burnt up. However you can find multiple species here.

Yellow pine isn't one single species of pines Sky--if you are talking about Southrn Yellow Pine. Lots of different varieties of that yellow pine including loblolly, long leaf, short leaf and slash pine and probably a few more.
almost all our pines here are loblolly too--planted after the timber companies cut all the old growth longleaf pine in the late 1800s early to mid 1900s. loblolly grows a lot faster than longleaf. Long leaf sapling doesn't even look like a sapling--it looks like bunchgrass, and stays that way a number of years while it puts down a long taproot. A lot of people in wet areas that think they have longleaf pine really have slash pine--slash pines have long needles too.

 

[skyhightree1]

What kind of pine y'all got up there sky? Virginia pine? Is that a yellow pine or white pine? Ga, we lite the fire when there is little or no wind and follow with a sprayer and put it out. Your right about the vines. They are a scurge around here.

Oh, I forgot to mention that turkeys love burns!

we had yellow pines that burnt up. However you can find multiple species here.

Yellow pine isn't one single species of pines Sky--if you are talking about Southrn Yellow Pine. Lots of different varieties of that yellow pine including loblolly, long leaf, short leaf and slash pine and probably a few more.
almost all our pines here are loblolly too--planted after the timber companies cut all the old growth longleaf pine in the late 1800s early to mid 1900s. loblolly grows a lot faster than longleaf. Long leaf sapling doesn't even look like a sapling--it looks like bunchgrass, and stays that way a number of years while it puts down a long taproot. A lot of people in wet areas that think they have longleaf pine really have slash pine--slash pines have long needles too.

I know im a Cert. Arborist by trade but I thought he asked whether they were white or yellow pines we had burn up. That's why I answered how I did. I read his post wrong. They were loblolly pines sorry misunderstood the question.

 

[shaneb]

You didnt follow it up with a sprayer too well last saturday there deepsouth. Someone had to call 911 for help. Hmmmmm. Dang inexperienced burners. Oh by the way, thanks for burning those woods. It was getting too thick to sneak in on those turkeys. Now i can go in without being heard by them and yall.

 

[Jogeephus]

Fire is the best too we have.

 

[greybeard]

Live from the fire line

I thought at first, that we were gonna be seeing MSNBC's Brian Williams reporting live from your controlled burn............

 

[Jogeephus]

No, I Brian Williams is fighting ISIS at the moment.

 

[Dave]

No, I Brian Williams is fighting ISIS at the moment.

Not a problem for Brian. He is only half way around the world. He could be there in minutes if needed.