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<blockquote data-quote="Ranchcop" data-source="post: 201725" data-attributes="member: 2751"><p>All I am saying is that if you stop using chemicals such as herbicide, pesticide and granular/chemical fertilizers, you will not need to lime. Organic practices will turn your ph back to normal in a year or two and it will stay that way.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>I do not know how long the place laid idle before I bought it but I imagine it was several years as I bought the place from an estate where the owner was in the nursing home. Before I bought the place no fertilizer or weed control was done. Just bermuda grass and weeds. Yet pH was 4.8. I burned it off to remove weeds and overgrowth, then plowed and planted the fields into cereal rye and overseeded with ryegrass. I did fertilize with a complete fertilizer because I was into buying worn out cows with calves and upgrading the cow and have a big calf to sell and needed to stock at cow-calf to acre.</p><p></p><p>My program has changed a little bit but I still need to cut two cuttings of hay and plant and graze winter pasture on the same piece of land. After 10 years of waiting, I was finally able to lease some pasture close to mine. Maybe I can take some of the pressure off and start to incorporate some legumes in my pasture. They just do not seem to work well where you are intensively grazing.[/quote]</p><p></p><p></p><p>I was talking to a cattleman in the Livingston Texas area on Friday that has been organic now for 6 years. He has 2 cow-calf to the acre.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Ranchcop, post: 201725, member: 2751"] All I am saying is that if you stop using chemicals such as herbicide, pesticide and granular/chemical fertilizers, you will not need to lime. Organic practices will turn your ph back to normal in a year or two and it will stay that way.[/quote] I do not know how long the place laid idle before I bought it but I imagine it was several years as I bought the place from an estate where the owner was in the nursing home. Before I bought the place no fertilizer or weed control was done. Just bermuda grass and weeds. Yet pH was 4.8. I burned it off to remove weeds and overgrowth, then plowed and planted the fields into cereal rye and overseeded with ryegrass. I did fertilize with a complete fertilizer because I was into buying worn out cows with calves and upgrading the cow and have a big calf to sell and needed to stock at cow-calf to acre. My program has changed a little bit but I still need to cut two cuttings of hay and plant and graze winter pasture on the same piece of land. After 10 years of waiting, I was finally able to lease some pasture close to mine. Maybe I can take some of the pressure off and start to incorporate some legumes in my pasture. They just do not seem to work well where you are intensively grazing.[/quote] I was talking to a cattleman in the Livingston Texas area on Friday that has been organic now for 6 years. He has 2 cow-calf to the acre. [/QUOTE]
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