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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1636498" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Saw cows almost every winter that essentially starved to death while eating all the sorry hay they could ingest. Crude protein levels below 7%... there's not enough N in there for the rumen microflora to break down the digestible fiber... so, it can't move through as fast... so their intake decreases... and they have to catabolize body fat & muscle to meet their needs. Sure, they have a big distended belly, but if you REALLY look at them, they're sliding rapidly downhill toward that BCS 2...</p><p> We usually say, 'February breaks them, March takes them'... expecially those nursing calves or heavily pregnant... they just 'run out of gas' with green grass just over the hill. </p><p>Winter of 2013-2014 took the cake, though... I was seeing starve-out cows by mid-late December. Feb/March-calving herds experienced calf mortality rates as high as 50%. Producers and veterinarians were looking for a 'pathogen' in the hay... but there was none... just sorry hay with CP levels around 3% and TDN levels in the 30s.</p><p></p><p>But... if you don't test your hay, you have no idea what's in there - or what you might or might not need to do to supplement adequately. </p><p>Last hay guy we bought from was good about testing... but somehow he'd gotten all hung up on ADF/NDF numbers... good for comparing lots of alfalfa hay... but all but worthless when looking at stuff that was mostly warm season grasses. I'm not sure I was ever able to convince him that the summer mixed-grass hay he was all excited about because of its ADF/NDF numbers was, at best, POOR quality, due to having a 4% CP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1636498, member: 12607"] Saw cows almost every winter that essentially starved to death while eating all the sorry hay they could ingest. Crude protein levels below 7%... there's not enough N in there for the rumen microflora to break down the digestible fiber... so, it can't move through as fast... so their intake decreases... and they have to catabolize body fat & muscle to meet their needs. Sure, they have a big distended belly, but if you REALLY look at them, they're sliding rapidly downhill toward that BCS 2... We usually say, 'February breaks them, March takes them'... expecially those nursing calves or heavily pregnant... they just 'run out of gas' with green grass just over the hill. Winter of 2013-2014 took the cake, though... I was seeing starve-out cows by mid-late December. Feb/March-calving herds experienced calf mortality rates as high as 50%. Producers and veterinarians were looking for a 'pathogen' in the hay... but there was none... just sorry hay with CP levels around 3% and TDN levels in the 30s. But... if you don't test your hay, you have no idea what's in there - or what you might or might not need to do to supplement adequately. Last hay guy we bought from was good about testing... but somehow he'd gotten all hung up on ADF/NDF numbers... good for comparing lots of alfalfa hay... but all but worthless when looking at stuff that was mostly warm season grasses. I'm not sure I was ever able to convince him that the summer mixed-grass hay he was all excited about because of its ADF/NDF numbers was, at best, POOR quality, due to having a 4% CP. [/QUOTE]
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