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<blockquote data-quote="flaboy" data-source="post: 92265" data-attributes="member: 1726"><p>Yep all gray market tractors. They are trying to do the same thing they did with all the imports years ago. Remember when they were hockey boxes and couldn't find parts for their cars? It will be years before the quality of these things reaches where it needs to be as an everyday work tool. </p><p></p><p>Only the 65 has a Perkins engine. The rest use the Kioti motor. I know a couple of people who bought these gray market tractors and swore they were the best thing since (fill in the blank) for the first year or two. Then things started to happen and parts were two months to get. There is also more to a tractor than just the motor. Running gear, hydraulics are VERY important. Even the Kubota owners are new. Most of the original Kubota owners would not buy another even though I am sure the new ones are much better and they have been around for 20 years now.</p><p></p><p>I have four Massey's and a Ford. I have a new Massey and it is incredible how much they have cheaped out on here and there compared to my 1966 Massey. Stamped metal instead of forged all over. They are 66, 73, 76, 82, and the new one. They are all still original with the exception of routine maintenance items. They all start right up and are ready to work on any day. I challenge ANY gray market tractors to be able to do this in 20, 30, or even 40 years.</p><p></p><p>Do yourself a favor, go Deere, New Holland, Case, or Massey if you plan to work it hard and keep it a long time. These will more than make up for the few thousand you will save upfront on the gray market tractors.</p><p></p><p>Oh one other thing. I am pretty sure some of the newer smaller Deere's have Isusu motors.</p><p></p><p>JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="flaboy, post: 92265, member: 1726"] Yep all gray market tractors. They are trying to do the same thing they did with all the imports years ago. Remember when they were hockey boxes and couldn't find parts for their cars? It will be years before the quality of these things reaches where it needs to be as an everyday work tool. Only the 65 has a Perkins engine. The rest use the Kioti motor. I know a couple of people who bought these gray market tractors and swore they were the best thing since (fill in the blank) for the first year or two. Then things started to happen and parts were two months to get. There is also more to a tractor than just the motor. Running gear, hydraulics are VERY important. Even the Kubota owners are new. Most of the original Kubota owners would not buy another even though I am sure the new ones are much better and they have been around for 20 years now. I have four Massey's and a Ford. I have a new Massey and it is incredible how much they have cheaped out on here and there compared to my 1966 Massey. Stamped metal instead of forged all over. They are 66, 73, 76, 82, and the new one. They are all still original with the exception of routine maintenance items. They all start right up and are ready to work on any day. I challenge ANY gray market tractors to be able to do this in 20, 30, or even 40 years. Do yourself a favor, go Deere, New Holland, Case, or Massey if you plan to work it hard and keep it a long time. These will more than make up for the few thousand you will save upfront on the gray market tractors. Oh one other thing. I am pretty sure some of the newer smaller Deere's have Isusu motors. JMHO [/QUOTE]
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