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<blockquote data-quote="TCRanch" data-source="post: 1768358" data-attributes="member: 24027"><p>[USER=42463]@Travlr[/USER] I agree about retaining heifers sired by super high CE bulls - as a general rule. But I have kept 4 sired by Johnson (+16) and pelvic measurements at 11 months (instead of 12) were: 182, 174, 149 and 156. My minimum goal is 150 and they should theoretically have a 75+/- lb calf unassisted at 24 months. Piper, in the above pic, was the 149 and her calf was a backward presentation, but she had it on her own (ran to the workshop to get the chains and not 5 minutes later, there was the calf!). Windy, at 182, spit out her first calf like a Pez dispenser<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😁" title="Beaming face with smiling eyes :grin:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f601.png" data-shortname=":grin:" />. I rarely retain a heifer from a first calf heifer because I want a proven track record. Does she consistently raise nice calves and breed back/calve during the first few weeks of calving? But I am making an exception with Piper and keeping her calf (Pepper/milk face), based on her dams history/the lineage.</p><p></p><p>[USER=33922]@chaded[/USER] my point is: wait until not only those calves hit the ground, but how well they've grown/developed by weaning before you decide to get rid of the bull. You may be surprised! He is just a youngster and has a lot of growing to do. And again, IMO, the primary factor is the dam. Assuming she's in good condition with good nutrition & minerals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TCRanch, post: 1768358, member: 24027"] [USER=42463]@Travlr[/USER] I agree about retaining heifers sired by super high CE bulls - as a general rule. But I have kept 4 sired by Johnson (+16) and pelvic measurements at 11 months (instead of 12) were: 182, 174, 149 and 156. My minimum goal is 150 and they should theoretically have a 75+/- lb calf unassisted at 24 months. Piper, in the above pic, was the 149 and her calf was a backward presentation, but she had it on her own (ran to the workshop to get the chains and not 5 minutes later, there was the calf!). Windy, at 182, spit out her first calf like a Pez dispenser😁. I rarely retain a heifer from a first calf heifer because I want a proven track record. Does she consistently raise nice calves and breed back/calve during the first few weeks of calving? But I am making an exception with Piper and keeping her calf (Pepper/milk face), based on her dams history/the lineage. [USER=33922]@chaded[/USER] my point is: wait until not only those calves hit the ground, but how well they've grown/developed by weaning before you decide to get rid of the bull. You may be surprised! He is just a youngster and has a lot of growing to do. And again, IMO, the primary factor is the dam. Assuming she's in good condition with good nutrition & minerals. [/QUOTE]
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