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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 1201021" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>Sporder-</p><p></p><p>I will use the same rhetoric that I use whenever anyone requests my opinions on cattle: it depends on your goals, the genetics of the bulls and the genetics of the females to whom they will be mated. The opinions expressed here by other CT posters are obtained from <strong>pictures,</strong> and are objective and not genetically detailed! One should NEVER select a bull solely on the basis of a photograph.</p><p></p><p>Both bulls are excellent phenotype, but you stated that they have different sires. That throws an entirely <em>different</em> monkey wrench into your COW HERD genetics for the resulting progeny! In order for you to have a vague estimate of \what your progeny will manifest genetically, you have to<u> balance </u>the genetics of one bull against the cows' genetics, the other bull against the cows' genetics, and then the genetics of both bulls against each other. THEN you have a picture of what the progeny will be, whether they will go to slaughter or will be retained as replacement heifers. Anyone who states that they would use one or the other bull in their herd without analyzing <u>their</u> herd genetics doesn't know what they are talking about as far as what to expect in the genetic performance of the next years calf crop - -except to be able to say " - - I got a pretty good calf crop this time!" and that doesn't tell anybody anything! They are practicing "Cow-Freshening" beef production.</p><p></p><p>Of course, <strong>YOU</strong> must have a definite goal and purpose in your protocol regimen before you can make up your mind subjectively as to which bull will justify your retaining him for your future progress in your herd development. His genetic influence will last for years and years after he is no longer siring calves in your herd.</p><p> </p><p>DOC HARRIS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 1201021, member: 1683"] Sporder- I will use the same rhetoric that I use whenever anyone requests my opinions on cattle: it depends on your goals, the genetics of the bulls and the genetics of the females to whom they will be mated. The opinions expressed here by other CT posters are obtained from [b]pictures,[/b] and are objective and not genetically detailed! One should NEVER select a bull solely on the basis of a photograph. Both bulls are excellent phenotype, but you stated that they have different sires. That throws an entirely [i]different[/i] monkey wrench into your COW HERD genetics for the resulting progeny! In order for you to have a vague estimate of \what your progeny will manifest genetically, you have to[u] balance [/u]the genetics of one bull against the cows' genetics, the other bull against the cows' genetics, and then the genetics of both bulls against each other. THEN you have a picture of what the progeny will be, whether they will go to slaughter or will be retained as replacement heifers. Anyone who states that they would use one or the other bull in their herd without analyzing [u]their[/u] herd genetics doesn't know what they are talking about as far as what to expect in the genetic performance of the next years calf crop - -except to be able to say " - - I got a pretty good calf crop this time!" and that doesn't tell anybody anything! They are practicing "Cow-Freshening" beef production. Of course, [b]YOU[/b] must have a definite goal and purpose in your protocol regimen before you can make up your mind subjectively as to which bull will justify your retaining him for your future progress in your herd development. His genetic influence will last for years and years after he is no longer siring calves in your herd. DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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