Just weaned Red Simangus Heifer Z 01

JustSimmental

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Any Thoughts on this 1/2 Simangus Z 01 Red heifer ASA Reg. # 2617903 API: 163 TI: 82
Sire: GW Predestined 701T S/A
Dam: MYTTY in Focus x GW Lucky Dice daughter S/A

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CE 15.0
BW -2.3
WW 64
YW 102
MCE 13.5
MM 23.2
MWW 54.9
DOC 19.9
CW 27.7
YG -0.16
MARB 0.71
BF -0.01
REA 0.65
 
Nice calf, but if you gave me three guesses to guess what breed I wouldn't have had it correct.
 
Good looking heifer, very good EPD numbers. Would like to have several just like her.

Have you decided how you are going to breed her?
 
ASA was out here looking at her in June and wants us to use Hooks Shear Force on her, but we have always refused to use HSF due to the fact that 90% of all Simm sires go back to Legacy G151. We don't have Legacy cattle here and want to keep it that way. If we did use HSF her calf could be Red and a 3/4 SA with these numbers:
CE: 18.1
BW: -2.7
WW: 61
YW: 91
MCE 14.3
MM: 27.2
CW: 15.8
YG: -0.34
Marb: 0.59
BF: -0.03
REA: 0.95
API: 174
TI: 85


I'm pretty picky and even though her calf would rank off the charts above Top 1%, I dont like that growth or CW. It's a little weak.

Other likely candidates for her first breeding might be GAR Selective Her calf's API would be 196 and TI of 98 IMF @ 1.13
GAR Profet; Her calf's API would be 186 and TI of 105 IMF @ 1.09
Brown Commitment (RA); Her calf's API would be 173 and TI of 97 (red) IMF @ 1.03
Rito Tremendous; Her calf's API would be 190 and TI of 97 IMF @ 1.19

or GW Premium Beef SA Her calf's API would be 170 and TI of 83


insurman":1tmgybqp said:
Good looking heifer, very good EPD numbers. Would like to have several just like her.

Have you decided how you are going to breed her?
 
what about GW red coat 099TS?

CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay Doc CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI
EPD 11.9 0.1 86.0 139.2 13.3 2.6 45.6 20.9 44.0 -0.31 0.14 -0.05 1.13 0.05 134.0 88.0
ACC 0.72 0.78 0.74 0.74 0.65 0.65 0.68 0.37 0.55 0.48 0.62 0.57 0.58 0.09
 
I looked up GW Red Coat -he is a 3/4SA I did a matched mating with 099TS and Z 01 and it went like this
5/8 SM 1/4 AR 1/8 AN

CE 12.9 top 20%
Brth -0.5 top 20%
Wean 76.4 Top 3%
Year 123 Top 2%
MCE 13.2 Top 4%
Milk 12.5 Top 99%
MWW 50.7 Top 55%
Stay n/a
CW 34.0 Top 16%
YG -0.23 Top 30%
Marb 0.43 Top 21%
BF -0.03 Top 57%
REA 0.89 Top 2%
Shr n/a
API 144 Top 8%
TI 86 Top 1%

He looks like a good terminal sire for growth WW YW; His CE is pretty good; MWW is weak which is a reflection of a very low Maternal Milk; CW is good; YG is fair; Marb is fair; BF is weak; REA is good; API is Good and TI is good.

Based on his MM --I couldn't use him b/c any replacement heifer I might get from a breeding would be the bottom of the production chain, here. Plus a 5/8 SM AN > I have no use for and I am not hell bent on maintaining color.

It often plays out this way when you have tremendous growth like Sharper Image, for example, you end up with good terminal cross type individuals, but lacking in maternal traits as well as carcass merit traits YG Marb BF. REA is a strong suit in SM anyway, so we don't feel we need more of that. Another reason I would steer clear of him is that he goes back to MV Red Light, which was a foot problem sire back in the day as well as a fool.

I have decided to breed her to GAR Selective for a first calf:
CE 20.0 top 1 %
Brth -3.9 top 1 %
Wean 60.1 Top 40 %
Year 99.5 Top 20 %
MCE 13.5 Top 4 %
Milk 26.7 Top 20 %
MWW 56.9 Top 20 %
Stay n/a
CW 19.4 Top 65 %
YG -0.14 Top 65 %
Marb 1.06 Top 1 %
BF 0.00 Top 99 %
REA 0.61 Top 25 %
Shr n/a
API 193 Top 1 %
TI 98 Top 1 %


CE is excellent; BW is Excellent; WW is ok; YW is ok; MCE is excellent; Milk is moderate which is what we prefer; MWW is good; CW is weak; YG is a bit weak; IMF is off the charts; BF is bad; REA is ok; API and TI is off the charts.

First calf heifers; we always breed them to low BW bulls, because all we are interested in is that they calve unassisted, become a good momma and wean a decent calf. WW and YW normally decrease when using Angus bulls. Some carcass merits we lose on like BF and REA and YG, which is par for the course especially since this individual would be a 1/4SM 3/4AN and if it is a heifer will more than likely be sold anyway. If it was a bull calf; as it stands right now, today; would be the highest API and TI S/A bull in North America, but would be sold, as well, probably to a Black Angus breeder. Either way, this individual would bring 5+K as a Yearling. The bottom line for us is quality and we lean more toward high carcass merit qualities (IMF) and Calving ease qualities than we do growth (WW YW CW). Most of the commercial herds around here (even Black Angus) are lacking in IMF and most buyers around here have brood cows in the 1100-1200 lb mature weight categories, with some Black Angus herds in the 1400 lb mature weight category. Calving ease is still the most sought after trait in our buyers minds as they recall the days of FB Simmental that were horrific -- lol I appreciate your feedback as i am always looking for bulls to try.

JS
 

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