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<blockquote data-quote="Alice" data-source="post: 283041" data-attributes="member: 3873"><p>It is hogwash...and has been shown to be a dismal failure. Of course, there will be sites on the internet touting the wonderful things it has done...and sites touting the what a failure it has been. I've read both and not with a jaundiced eye toward either. I was raised in a family full of teachers, my daughter is a teacher...my sister is a 30 year child protective services worker/administrator who has had to deal with the fallout of lousy parenting and social services rules and regulations regarding these children. You have legislators making laws that have never had to slug it out in the trenches with the teachers and school administrators and school counselors and concerned parents of children who are trying to get educations. Last year my daughter had a boy that went off...threw desks...banged his head on the floor. She cleared the other students out of the room, and called the principal who came immediately. </p><p></p><p>Seems there's only one way a teacher/principal is allowed to restrain a child. She couldn't do it because he was a big kid...the principal couldn't do it because he couldn't get hold of him to restrain him. This is a 3rd grade kid now. Finally, the principal more or less said he's leaving this room one way or the other, picked him up, wrestled with him and managed to get him out of the room. I understand the principal had bruises from head to foot.</p><p></p><p>Result? An entire afternoon of teaching was blown. And this wasn't the only time mornings and afternoons were wasted because of this one child...however, this incident finally was given the attention my daughter had sought for this boy since the beginning of the school year. The boy was finally placed in an alternative school. The last six weeks of school went well. Yep, out of an entire school year, one full six weeks was devoted to teaching and only teaching. The other kids dug in and their testing showed how much better they learned without the distraction and constant upheavel. They all passed their TAKS and passed with really good scores. It did come at a price for the remaining kids, however. Their entire class time was drill, after drill, after drill...no free time to go to the library...no free time to for fun stuff like show and tell. </p><p></p><p>No wonder schools aren't happy with "no child left behind." Their teachers can't make and keep "scores" that are required for their funding because that have to deal with problems like this, over, and over and over.</p><p></p><p>Alice</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alice, post: 283041, member: 3873"] It is hogwash...and has been shown to be a dismal failure. Of course, there will be sites on the internet touting the wonderful things it has done...and sites touting the what a failure it has been. I've read both and not with a jaundiced eye toward either. I was raised in a family full of teachers, my daughter is a teacher...my sister is a 30 year child protective services worker/administrator who has had to deal with the fallout of lousy parenting and social services rules and regulations regarding these children. You have legislators making laws that have never had to slug it out in the trenches with the teachers and school administrators and school counselors and concerned parents of children who are trying to get educations. Last year my daughter had a boy that went off...threw desks...banged his head on the floor. She cleared the other students out of the room, and called the principal who came immediately. Seems there's only one way a teacher/principal is allowed to restrain a child. She couldn't do it because he was a big kid...the principal couldn't do it because he couldn't get hold of him to restrain him. This is a 3rd grade kid now. Finally, the principal more or less said he's leaving this room one way or the other, picked him up, wrestled with him and managed to get him out of the room. I understand the principal had bruises from head to foot. Result? An entire afternoon of teaching was blown. And this wasn't the only time mornings and afternoons were wasted because of this one child...however, this incident finally was given the attention my daughter had sought for this boy since the beginning of the school year. The boy was finally placed in an alternative school. The last six weeks of school went well. Yep, out of an entire school year, one full six weeks was devoted to teaching and only teaching. The other kids dug in and their testing showed how much better they learned without the distraction and constant upheavel. They all passed their TAKS and passed with really good scores. It did come at a price for the remaining kids, however. Their entire class time was drill, after drill, after drill...no free time to go to the library...no free time to for fun stuff like show and tell. No wonder schools aren't happy with "no child left behind." Their teachers can't make and keep "scores" that are required for their funding because that have to deal with problems like this, over, and over and over. Alice [/QUOTE]
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