I used him, have a bull calf that was 916# at 205 days, a hoss of a bull, I think . Heifer birthed him unassisted but she is a big girl, his bw was 90#, bred her back to Double Vision , I am hoping for a heifer I can use for a ten x son I hope to have. Really nice calf I think , too young to tell, lol. The heifer with ten x is just 60 days into pregnancy, and not sure of sex, may use Double Vision son Double 00 Huck, for the other calf if heifer , either way will be big frame animals I think.