Is it time

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I have a three year old cow that went down eight weeks ago .We had put a young bull in with cows and about a week later I found her at the bottom of a hill , called my vet he came out .We were able to get her up but only for a few steps nothing broke he felt it was a pinched nerve.We got her up too barn and have been giving fresh water and hay daily .She will set up like a dog ( on her rump ) pushes up a little with her hind legs. Just need to know if anyone has had one get up after this long ? Have talked to butcher and they say that they can not butcher her and I would be best to put her down .
 
Bovine Part Time":29yxakga said:
I have a three year old cow that went down eight weeks ago .We had put a young bull in with cows and about a week later I found her at the bottom of a hill , called my vet he came out .We were able to get her up but only for a few steps nothing broke he felt it was a pinched nerve.We got her up too barn and have been giving fresh water and hay daily .She will set up like a dog ( on her rump ) pushes up a little with her hind legs. Just need to know if anyone has had one get up after this long ? Have talked to butcher and they say that they can not butcher her and I would be best to put her down .

I honestly cannot believe you are asking. Should have been shot in the head about 7 and 1/2 weeks ago.

Time, effort, money, drugs, vet plus pain and discomfort to the animal - and now she cannot even be butchered. A total waste, abuse of the animal (yeah that will pizz off some but it is in my opinion so tough tits - challenge that one of you like - sometimes in trying to do good we do more harm) and a total financial loss. Up here we cannot write that off on taxes - maybe you can.

I take a lot of schitte for this on the forum at times but if you run any number of cattle for a bunch of years it happens that one will go down - around here s/he gets 24 hours here and no more.

Draw a line from ear to opposite eye - left to right and right to left. Where the lines cross is where the bullet goes.

.22 cal works OK - but do her a favour - make it at least a .30 cal bullet - it works better

Bez
 
It's nothing but bait. :roll: The poster has 4 post and throws out a 8 week old down cow. Just some POS that has caused problems before.
 
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Alan":2xwp6tyr said:
It's nothing but bait. :roll: The poster has 4 post and throws out a 8 week old down cow. Just some POS that has caused problems before.
You would think the poster would have asked this question as his first post, since he hasn't been on CT long--Joined Dec 23. That would be about 8 weeks ago. Maybe I missed it.

I DID miss it--it was his first post--same cow.
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Had to make the same decision a couple of years ago. If they are down from calving paralysis and they get up after a couple of weeks there is every chance they won;t ever have another proble with it. If they;re down from a spinal injury, even if they get up all they are good for is salvage value. The odds of it happening again are too great.
Time for the lead solution.
 
Bez , This morning I will go up and put her down .I had talked to others who had this happen and was told that after four to six weeks theres had gotten up,I was wrong !! I can tell you I do care about my animals and would not want them to suffer .The last eight weeks she has been in the barn out of weather fed good hay ice out water ,cow crap removed and she showed no pain. Please Forgive this old man for following his heart. You do give good advice and I thank you for that . WE live and learn.


Bovine Part time
 
Why couldn't you hamburger something like this? If she was not on meds, and was fed during this time, why not get something positive out of it? We have a butcher out here that will come to your place and kill the animal and hang it and take it into the butcher shop. Ran by the Amish. Just seems like such a waste. My neighbor had a cow break her femur, she was down for 24 hours. They came out and took care of her.
 
Here in Texas, state law says she has to be able to walk off the trailer for a butcher or sale barn to take them. Main reason is BSE. It's probably a federal law.
 
I did talk to a local butcher that offers to come to farm but USDA will not allow them to butcher anything that is down. My plans if she could be salvaged was to give most if not all too some catholic nuns here locally that work with the poor ( Little sisters of the lamb ) she would't of gone to waste.
 
You can butcher it yourself and just not say anything about her being down when you get to the locker with the meat.

There is a dairy farmer near me that says he gives them 24 hour to get up. If not he gives them to his Mexican workers. They clean them up and don't leave a spot of blood. He says over the years only one in ten get up. He says when you figure the cost of dealling with the nine that don't get up it isn't worth messing with it for number 10.
 
Dave":ircr5ur5 said:
You can butcher it yourself and just not say anything about her being down when you get to the locker with the meat.

There is a dairy farmer near me that says he gives them 24 hour to get up. If not he gives them to his Mexican workers. They clean them up and don't leave a spot of blood. He says over the years only one in ten get up. He says when you figure the cost of dealling with the nine that don't get up it isn't worth messing with it for number 10.

Dave

I agree with your dairy farmer on the time.

I do not agree that rules are made to be broken though.

They are in place for a reason and breaking them puts the entire industry at risk and makes all farmers and ranchers look bad.

Down means no butcher and no eat. Period.

You take it to the locker - what are you really taking there?

I do that in my country and I honestly and actually could go to jail if caught.

Best to all

Bez
 
Actually I would not want to consume an animal that has been down for so long & received meds. Unless you take her temp, you don't know if she has a fever.
 
snake67":1iihhzw7 said:
Dave":1iihhzw7 said:
You can butcher it yourself and just not say anything about her being down when you get to the locker with the meat.

There is a dairy farmer near me that says he gives them 24 hour to get up. If not he gives them to his Mexican workers. They clean them up and don't leave a spot of blood. He says over the years only one in ten get up. He says when you figure the cost of dealling with the nine that don't get up it isn't worth messing with it for number 10.

Dave

I agree with your dairy farmer on the time.

I do not agree that rules are made to be broken though.

They are in place for a reason and breaking them puts the entire industry at risk and makes all farmers and ranchers look bad.

Down means no butcher and no eat. Period.

You take it to the locker - what are you really taking there?

I do that in my country and I honestly and actually could go to jail if caught.

Best to all

Bez

Bez,

I should have included if I know for fact that she is down because of a physical injury. Something like a broken leg. If there is a possibility that it is from a neurological disorder she gets a bullet to the brain and a hole in the ground. And with a physical injury there are going to be no meds, no temp, and I eat those myself. It is a lot of burger but I eat mostly burger. The exception to this is I have also given a broken leg cow to a friend of my son who has half a dozen hounds. The dogs ate beef for a while which is in my mind better than burying it.
 

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