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<blockquote data-quote="Travlr" data-source="post: 1825118" data-attributes="member: 42463"><p>There were a couple of things that happened as society evolved, and I admit they sounded pretty good at the time but haven't panned out so well. I don't know how teachers can educate students now due to the lack of discipline and parental support. I know a lot of the parents of kids when my own were going to school would expect good grades... <strong>from the teacher</strong> ... instead of their kids, and would get downright hostile with the teacher instead of expecting their kid to straighten up... and the teachers caved in and let it happen instead of sticking to their guns. It got pretty weird when kids couldn't be disciplined. I've seen kids go off on teachers with foul language you wouldn't believe... and the teacher just turns around and walks away. And the whole "self esteem" thing really got out of hand with participation awards, damaging both the kids that excelled and should have been recognized for it and also the kids that did crappy work and still got recognized for a lack of effort or excellence. We got caught up in some pretty bizarre things... sold by psychologists that probably raised rotten kids after they got the schools to follow their ideas. But by then it was popular opinion that those ideals were better than what had been successful before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Travlr, post: 1825118, member: 42463"] There were a couple of things that happened as society evolved, and I admit they sounded pretty good at the time but haven't panned out so well. I don't know how teachers can educate students now due to the lack of discipline and parental support. I know a lot of the parents of kids when my own were going to school would expect good grades... [B]from the teacher[/B] ... instead of their kids, and would get downright hostile with the teacher instead of expecting their kid to straighten up... and the teachers caved in and let it happen instead of sticking to their guns. It got pretty weird when kids couldn't be disciplined. I've seen kids go off on teachers with foul language you wouldn't believe... and the teacher just turns around and walks away. And the whole "self esteem" thing really got out of hand with participation awards, damaging both the kids that excelled and should have been recognized for it and also the kids that did crappy work and still got recognized for a lack of effort or excellence. We got caught up in some pretty bizarre things... sold by psychologists that probably raised rotten kids after they got the schools to follow their ideas. But by then it was popular opinion that those ideals were better than what had been successful before. [/QUOTE]
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