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Jogeephus

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Our grocery store is now carrying organic produce!!!!!! ORGANIC!!! As a promotion they had yellow squash on sale today for $4.29 for BOTH of them! That means that my wife can make my favorite squash casserole and it won't cost but $20 for the dish! (that's assuming I don't count the price of the cheese and the onion - but its still a good deal) Who'd have thought we'd make such strides in such a small town. Before long, I suspect we may even become politically correct! And to think up until now we were having to pay $12/case for the vile crap those non-organic farmers grow. :???:
 
We have organic in the supermarket here. It's specially wrapped with stickers on it and I never see it in anyone's basket. Lucky you, tho! :lol2:
 
$4.29 for BOTH of them! :shock:

I know you wouldn't make that up. What type of people drive that market? I can't fathom the ignorance.
 
Ouachita":1wsp8ifc said:
$4.29 for BOTH of them! :shock:

I know you wouldn't make that up. What type of people drive that market? I can't fathom the ignorance.
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Based on what I see as I wait in line I'd estimate that at least 60% are on assistance.
 
I've been waiting for a good time to say this so I guess now's as good a time as any. Fact is my diet has been strictly organic for the past two years. Mostly bean sprouts and soy milk. I'm broke, down to 85 lbs, now legally blind, and my wife is typing this for me 'cause I'm too weak. But I sure feel good about myself........you know, saving the planet and all that.
 
VanC":uhozs6e7 said:
I've been waiting for a good time to say this so I guess now's as good a time as any. Fact is my diet has been strictly organic for the past two years. Mostly bean sprouts and soy milk. I'm broke, down to 85 lbs, now legally blind, and my wife is typing this for me 'cause I'm too weak. But I sure feel good about myself........you know, saving the planet and all that.
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Just to clear things up, this post was supposed to be a silly joke that failed. I've had a couple of PMs from folks concerned that I might really be sick. I'm fine. Moving on now.
 
Van, I've learned you can't be to dry with humor. Folks start taking you seriously. It's a difficult thing to over the internet. A while back I got a couple sympathy pm's myself :lol2: . I figured you to be way to smart to be in the situation you described, and your wife would have done kicked your arse and straightened you up :lol2:
 
I chuckled at the first one and about spilled my beer on the second one. :lol:

FWIW: My son is on a diet to keep his ADD below the threshold of him being a danger to himself(mostly to keep me from choking him) and others and we HAVE noticed that he can eat some fruits in organic form when the same fruits in non-organic can have him literally spinning on the floor with his forehead. I am starting to see correlations between the fruits that hit him hard and the pesticides that get used on them. We cut out all foriegn fruit and veggies so that I can cross referance pesticides that we use here.
I'm still not a treehugger though, all of my trees get sprayed. That might change if I can pinpoint what my son is sensitive to.
 
What gets me is that there really is no scientific way to prove a veggie is organic. It's all on the honor system, and although most folks are honest there are bound to be those sellers who look at the price difference and decide "heck yes those carrots are organic". Many of those folks are past the farm gate, since I'm sure no farmer would do such a thing. But as a wholesaler, if you have orders for 100 crates of organic lettuce and you only have 50 available...
 
john250":y00u6zoa said:
What gets me is that there really is no scientific way to prove a veggie is organic. It's all on the honor system, and although most folks are honest there are bound to be those sellers who look at the price difference and decide "heck yes those carrots are organic". Many of those folks are past the farm gate, since I'm sure no farmer would do such a thing. But as a wholesaler, if you have orders for 100 crates of organic lettuce and you only have 50 available...
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There are certifieng agencies and it does get randomly checked... At least here in CA it does. Part of organic certification means a restricted use permit so that they can't even buy products that aren't certified organic. It takes a minimum of three years of scrutiny , to get a farm from conventional farming to certified organic.
In some crops it is certainly a better choice. Citrus crops can be produced with little or no chemicals and still produce a great, healthy product that just isn't real pretty to look at if it's grown organically but on some crops the pest load can be so high that an ignorant organic farmer(not all of them are ignorant,some are better) can produce fruit that is fairly devoid of minerals as the pests got it all.
I can't speak for all crops but I do know that in citrus, about half of the pesticides used are geared more towards fruit apearance than they are towards producing a healthy crop.
 
For all intents and purposes, my garden is organic but I do use permethrin from time to time which is the same as pyrethrin but has been modified to be sunlight stable for something like 48 hours rather than 2 hours or so pyrethrin is. I'm not going to go to the expense to make the mum tea every few hours just so I can say I'm organic. I'd rather save the fuel for another day.

I saw a pound of organic corn meal for $4.95. Anyone want to make some corn bread? It had a real cool looking bag too.
 
The following has been inspired by the fact I never knew how cool I was growing up till now. Dad always made me shovel out Grandma's chicken house for her and wheel barrow it to the garden before planting season each year, we ate grass fed beef (with a little corn just before butchering), and I always had a pair of jeans with holes in the knees. I always thought we were broke, I never knew my parents were just extremely enlightened.

(in the sound of Barbara Mandrel's voice)

I remember shoveling chicken manure till midnight
and composting, even when they weren't in style....


I remember the stinging and buzz
of honey bees, before colony collapse disorder went wild....


And I was using natural host enemies,
when all my neighbor's were using round-up, seven dust, and lots of fuel....

I was organic, when organic wasn't cool....
 
I remember circles of irrigation,
and reading about melting ice caps in Mother Jones.....

I remember when no one was lookin,
I was sprinkling Indenesian bat guano in my corn....

I took a lot of ribbin, cause I never did make a livin'
now look at everybody tryin' to be what I was then,

I was organic, when organic wasn't cool....
 
Just goes to show that 1) most people are ignorant about where their food supply comes from and 2) marketing folks take advantage of that. Jogee, you started this so I'm on my soap box.

Was getting breakfast at my day job and I noticed they were using brown eggs. So I asked why. You guessed it, the answer was they were "organic". So to get a little more clarification I asked how could they tell they were organic. "Because they were brown" was the answer!

All my beef are organically raised, by the definition of organic. I do not use growth harmones, I do not use excessive antibiotics and they do not get fed anything artificial but that doesn't mean I can sell my beef as organic. I suppose I could join some "Organic" marketing group and pay some outrageous fee for them to tell people it's "organic". Somehow that just doesn't seem ethical so I don't do it.
 
I work with a lot of organic farmers. The whole certified organic has a lot of rules. Many more than most people realize. Some that seem reasonable. Some that are pretty far out there. One of the recent ones coming out is that they might have to start using "organic" manure. Now any organic farm that raises livestock probably doesn't produce enough manure for their own fertility needs. So they aren't going to sell manure to the organic veggie farms. On the other hand while bad mouthing commercial agriculture they are still depending on them for their source of nutrients to raise their crops.
I also like the idea that is held by the greenies that organic farms don't pollute. I have taken too many soil tests at their farms to buy into that. And when you only use manure for fertilizer and the rules make you apply it at the worse time of the year for runoff.... Well you can guess what happens. But they are organic so it is Ok.
For organic beef you can use no growth hormones. No antibiotics, if you give a sick animal a shot it is no longer organic and is supposed to be removed from the farm. No dewormer. And all the feed must be organic certifed not just your pasture. That will double the price of grain and make hay pretty difficult to find.
One of my co-workers had a bunch of extra squash in his garden. He set them out by the road with a free sign on them. One of the local organic veggie growers stopped and asked if he could take them all. The co-worker said yes, he was just trying to get rid of them. You don't suppose those squash suddenly became organic and sold at a premium.
There is a guy who I went to high school with who is raising organic chickens. He gets $5 a pound for chickens and $6 a dozen for eggs. I guess if you can find enough people willing to pay those prices it is worth it but I would have tough time keeping a straight face while doing it.
The whole organic movement thrills me too.
 

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