Im Floored....

[wrangler284]

Alright, I bought a heifer @ 6 months of age she was in a pasture with a bull etc. Took her home seemed just dandy. The problem was she never appeared to come into heat with the rest of the heifers. She was in a pasture with about 70. We ran them all thru and luted all the known to be open heifers,her included, because a bull broke the fence that would of been a disaster on heifers. Went out the one day to check heat, she was @ 14 months old..she has a calf on the ground. This means she had to have been bred @ 5 months and didnt abort after we luted her...has this happened every to anyone else?? It is honestly blowing our minds! Gladly appreciate any comments..ty
Krysti

 

[Chris H]

Heard of it. The earliest we ever had was a 16 month old calve. The lute didn't work on yours because she was too far along.

Feed her if necessary & breed her. Might consider pulling the calf off her, let her dry up and keep running her with your yearling group. Consider the calf a $200 bonus.

 

[mitchwi]

Had the same problem this year with a heifer that I bought last fall.... approx same ages as well. At least you have a life calf, I didn't, but I was glad not have lost the heifer.

 

[msscamp]

This means she had to have been bred @ 5 months and didnt abort after we luted her...has this happened every to anyone else?? It is honestly blowing our minds! Gladly appreciate any comments..ty
Krysti

Can't answer about the lute - no experience with it. As for the bred at 5 months - yep, it's happened to us before. We had 2 yearling heifers calve at right around 12 months of age - both raised a pretty good calf (considering the circumstances), and went on to become part of the herd. Both have raised a good calf every year since then, too.

 

[wrangler284]

Yea we tried to pull the calf off trying to make it easier for the dam but the calf refused to bottle and the cow flipped on us. So we ended up turning the calf back out, she ended up doing a great job with her. Thanks

 

[Caustic Burno]

It is not uncommon on the English breeds to breed at 5 or 6 months you have been lucky so far or haven't owned British cattle very long.

 

[Susie David]

Bought a replacement heifer a few years back and was wondering why she was develloping a "hay belly" ...now she is a two year old plus settled with her third calf.
Kept the early bred, about 300# lighter than he should be and looks like a real fing yearling, only he is 16 months and 950#.
DMc

 

[msscamp]

Yea we tried to pull the calf off trying to make it easier for the dam but the calf refused to bottle and the cow flipped on us. So we ended up turning the calf back out, she ended up doing a great job with her. Thanks

Transitioning a calf from his mother to a bottle tends to be a difficult job - even if the calf is starving - and it just becomes more difficult if the mother is still on the property. We don't generally pull calves unless Mom simply does not have enough milk - in which case Mom goes down the road.

 

[aplusmnt]

The lute didn't work on yours because she was too far along.

I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on this (maybe Dun will pop in) But I thought Lute usually does not work if you give it to soon after they been exposed to a bull OR not a strong enough dose. Would not have thought she was to far along for Lute to work.

But then again I am a janitor so take it with a grain of salt ;-)

 

[dun]

From the lutalyze insert:

Commercial cattle were palpated per rectum for pregnancy in six
feedlots. The percent of pregnant cattle in each feedlot less than
100 days of gestation ranged between 26 and 84; 80% or more of
the pregnant cattle were less than 150 days of gestation. The abortion
rates following injection of LUTALYSE increased with increasing doses
up to about 25 mg. As examples, the abortion rates, over 7 feedlots
on the dose titration study, were 22%, 50%, 71%, 90% and 78% for
cattle up to 100 days of gestation when injected IM with LUTALYSE
doses of 0,1 (5 mg), 2 (10 mg), 4 (20 mg) and 8 (40 mg) mL, respectively.
The statistical predicted relative abortion rate based on the dose
titration data, was about 93% for the 5 mL (25 mg) LUTALYSE dose
for cattle injected up to 100 days of gestation.

 

[TSR]

Alright, I bought a heifer @ 6 months of age she was in a pasture with a bull etc. Took her home seemed just dandy. The problem was she never appeared to come into heat with the rest of the heifers. She was in a pasture with about 70. We ran them all thru and luted all the known to be open heifers,her included, because a bull broke the fence that would of been a disaster on heifers. Went out the one day to check heat, she was @ 14 months old..she has a calf on the ground. This means she had to have been bred @ 5 months and didnt abort after we luted her...has this happened every to anyone else?? It is honestly blowing our minds! Gladly appreciate any comments..ty
Krysti

My experience, lutalyse won't work when given immediately after breeding, the optimum time-7-10 days after being bred to abort. It definitely won't work if they are very far along. This is based on giving a 5ml dose.

 

[Chris H]

The lute didn't work on yours because she was too far along.

I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong on this (maybe Dun will pop in) But I thought Lute usually does not work if you give it to soon after they been exposed to a bull OR not a strong enough dose. Would not have thought she was to far along for Lute to work.

But then again I am a janitor so take it with a grain of salt ;-)

I made an assumption that since he gave lute after a bull broke in the pasture that the heifer was close to the typical breeding age, 12 months or more. At that age she was already 7 months along, 210 days. The label on the lute, as provided by Dun, doesn't even mention results on pregnancies over 150 days. Of course, my statement was based entirely on an assumption.