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<blockquote data-quote="DiamondSCattleCo" data-source="post: 225704" data-attributes="member: 2862"><p>1) Low quality bin run oats with alot of wild oats can be had today for 55 cents/bushel. The elevators won't buy it and the farmers just want to get it gone. Wild oats has excellent nutritional value. And no rude awakenings. My decision to creep feed is based on surveying the countryside to see what kind of consumption they're going through versus the weight gains, then adjusting back to my animals. The large framed Simm guys in the area are getting 150 extra pounds in 7 months with creep feed. Its also based on my work with other ranches who did use creep. Perhaps I won't get my 100 pound target in 5 months, but I won't be far off, given the other British guys in the area are getting in that neighborhood. As I said in the other thread, I won't know for sure until I try it myself on my own animals.</p><p></p><p>2) Well I think my cows are doing just fine. I'm weaning 50% of cow weight in 5 months on average frame sized cows. That above average weaning weight for the Shorthorn breed. As far as the cows not getting adequate nutrition, they can raise that 50% of their weight and end up dropping very little shape (during the wet days of June/July they'll drop a little condition, but gain back in August/September). I feed a free choice mineral, balanced out for the grass (or hay depending on the year).</p><p></p><p>My feedlot performance, once the weaning shock is gone, is better than my performance on the cows (.5 to 1 pound per day better performance in the lot, and I don't heavy feed). If I can eliminate, or at least reduce weaning shock to nil, I'm going to get a 2 - 4 weeks more good growth, versus having 2 - 4 weeks with no growth, or little growth.</p><p></p><p>Rod</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DiamondSCattleCo, post: 225704, member: 2862"] 1) Low quality bin run oats with alot of wild oats can be had today for 55 cents/bushel. The elevators won't buy it and the farmers just want to get it gone. Wild oats has excellent nutritional value. And no rude awakenings. My decision to creep feed is based on surveying the countryside to see what kind of consumption they're going through versus the weight gains, then adjusting back to my animals. The large framed Simm guys in the area are getting 150 extra pounds in 7 months with creep feed. Its also based on my work with other ranches who did use creep. Perhaps I won't get my 100 pound target in 5 months, but I won't be far off, given the other British guys in the area are getting in that neighborhood. As I said in the other thread, I won't know for sure until I try it myself on my own animals. 2) Well I think my cows are doing just fine. I'm weaning 50% of cow weight in 5 months on average frame sized cows. That above average weaning weight for the Shorthorn breed. As far as the cows not getting adequate nutrition, they can raise that 50% of their weight and end up dropping very little shape (during the wet days of June/July they'll drop a little condition, but gain back in August/September). I feed a free choice mineral, balanced out for the grass (or hay depending on the year). My feedlot performance, once the weaning shock is gone, is better than my performance on the cows (.5 to 1 pound per day better performance in the lot, and I don't heavy feed). If I can eliminate, or at least reduce weaning shock to nil, I'm going to get a 2 - 4 weeks more good growth, versus having 2 - 4 weeks with no growth, or little growth. Rod [/QUOTE]
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