I get to find out what kind of fire this guy can light.

[Aaron]

Here is a couple pics of the new purchase for the cows, Zippo. And pics of three of his paternal sisters. His sire is in top 1% of breed for weaning weight and top 5% for yearling weight. His BW was 94, WW 840 and YW 1320.

Sire

Paternal sisters

Friend is using a 1/2 brother and saw weaning weights on the calves go from high 5's to pretty much 700 across the board.

Now the search is on for a heifer bull.

 

[ike]

Aaron I am no expert but I think you have a great Bull, I like the shape of his head, but his toe nails between his ears need clipping.He looks very masculine.
I like his sire and if he throws udders like his sisters, on your cows, then you have hit a home run.
Good luck with your search for a Heifer Bull.
Best regards Ike

 

[Craig]

Very nice! :clap: How old is he in those pics? Also, what happened to all of your snow?

 

[Aaron]

Very nice! :clap: How old is he in those pics? Also, what happened to all of your snow?

He is two. Pics are from southern Alberta, not here. He is staying there until the mountains here melt and cattle can be moved around.

 

[Backbone Ranch]

That is a great looking young bull. His sire looks like a phenomenal bull too.

 

[MO_cows]

Congrats, hope he lives up to his potential. If he was a horse I would say he has a "kind eye", he just looks docile in that 1st pic and so does his sire.

 

[H and H]

Aaron, you sure can pick a good one. His phenotype, numbers, and sire/half sibs all look phenomenal.
Tell us a bit more, who bred that stud, lineage, etc.

 

[ANAZAZI]

:tiphat: Congratulations on what seems to be a real bull!

 

[plumber_greg]

Whadda' ya' do, go to the local sale barn and buy one by the pound? Shows what research and making bulls a business decision can do. An extra few dollars now can pay off big time later. gs

 

[WalnutCrest]

Congratulations. He looks like he should fill the role real well!

 

[Stocker Steve]

An 840# weaning weight is not what I would expect with herfs. What is the sire's mature frame size? Are there a lot of growthy herfs like that in Alberta?

 

[Aaron]

An 840# weaning weight is not what I would expect with herfs. What is the sire's mature frame size? Are there a lot of growthy herfs like that in Alberta?

His sire weaned at 1050 lbs. Mature frame size is around 6-6.5. There are no small frame 4.5-5 bulls in western Alberta. 6-7 frame is considered moderate out there. I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords. If frame size creeps up in the cows, I can always take it back down in the next cross. Just looking for a boost in the gain department. Haven't had some real growthy genetics like this since we used Charolais bulls.

 

[alexfarms]

An 840# weaning weight is not what I would expect with herfs. What is the sire's mature frame size? Are there a lot of growthy herfs like that in Alberta?

His sire weaned at 1050 lbs. Mature frame size is around 6-6.5. There are no small frame 4.5-5 bulls in western Alberta. 6-7 frame is considered moderate out there. I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords. If frame size creeps up in the cows, I can always take it back down in the next cross. Just looking for a boost in the gain department. Haven't had some real growthy genetics like this since we used Charolais bulls.

He is an awesome looking bull, good luck with him. As for Stocker Steve's comment, the same genetics will produce larger birth weight and mature frame in western Alberta than down in the states. There is an environmental effect.

"I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords."....The Line 1 influenced cattle down here that are so popular, and horned, are fed and pushed as hard as any polled Herefords. But, yes there are some polled Herefords in western Alberta that are feed pretty hard also.

I was in western Alberta visiting relatives about 25 years ago and I was surprised at how much frame the mature commercial cattle had. At that time the big cross was Angus and Charolais. They were ahead of the states in that move at that time.

 

[Aaron]

An 840# weaning weight is not what I would expect with herfs. What is the sire's mature frame size? Are there a lot of growthy herfs like that in Alberta?

His sire weaned at 1050 lbs. Mature frame size is around 6-6.5. There are no small frame 4.5-5 bulls in western Alberta. 6-7 frame is considered moderate out there. I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords. If frame size creeps up in the cows, I can always take it back down in the next cross. Just looking for a boost in the gain department. Haven't had some real growthy genetics like this since we used Charolais bulls.

He is an awesome looking bull, good luck with him. As for Stocker Steve's comment, the same genetics will produce larger birth weight and mature frame in western Alberta than down in the states. There is an environmental effect.

"I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords."....The Line 1 influenced cattle down here that are so popular, and horned, are fed and pushed as hard as any polled Herefords. But, yes there are some polled Herefords in western Alberta that are feed pretty hard also.

I was in western Alberta visiting relatives about 25 years ago and I was surprised at how much frame the mature commercial cattle had. At that time the big cross was Angus and Charolais. They were ahead of the states in that move at that time.

There aren't very many L1 cattle that catch my eye, whereas there are few Canadian-bred horned Herefords that don't.

 

[alexfarms]

His sire weaned at 1050 lbs. Mature frame size is around 6-6.5. There are no small frame 4.5-5 bulls in western Alberta. 6-7 frame is considered moderate out there. I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords. If frame size creeps up in the cows, I can always take it back down in the next cross. Just looking for a boost in the gain department. Haven't had some real growthy genetics like this since we used Charolais bulls.

He is an awesome looking bull, good luck with him. As for Stocker Steve's comment, the same genetics will produce larger birth weight and mature frame in western Alberta than down in the states. There is an environmental effect.

"I like this growth because its genetic, not put on with creep feed like a lot of the polled Herefords."....The Line 1 influenced cattle down here that are so popular, and horned, are fed and pushed as hard as any polled Herefords. But, yes there are some polled Herefords in western Alberta that are feed pretty hard also.

I was in western Alberta visiting relatives about 25 years ago and I was surprised at how much frame the mature commercial cattle had. At that time the big cross was Angus and Charolais. They were ahead of the states in that move at that time.

There aren't very many L1 cattle that catch my eye, whereas there are few Canadian-bred horned Herefords that don't.

Yes, I agree, I really like the look of the Canadian cattle. I'm not familiar with the bloodlines and there have been some brought down to the states that have not turned out so well. So, they are a bit of a mystery to me. I like the Miles City Line 1's much more that the outcrossed, Line 1 influence, cattle. But when you get those outcrossed Line 1's fat they can sure look good. The Miles City sale was today and the top selling bull went for $8,750. He was a two year old with a 76 pound bw, actual weaning wt of 392# and actual yearling weight of 857#. He probably wouldn't have adjusted to over 1000# yearling weight.

 

[Aaron]

Aaron, you sure can pick a good one. His phenotype, numbers, and sire/half sibs all look phenomenal.
Tell us a bit more, who bred that stud, lineage, etc.

Bred by YV Ranch. Primarily Silver and Standard breeding with 4 shots of 656 in him, which is always good. Found a couple proofs of him online.