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<blockquote data-quote="JustSimmental" data-source="post: 835238" data-attributes="member: 14624"><p>If you are using Angus bulls on Brangus cows you already should have some pretty good carcass traits in your herd. As you know your choice in herd bull has a greater influence on growth frame and carcass traits relatively than your broodcows. Polled Hereford wouldn't be my choice mostly due to their weak growth rates, but I do like their smaller frame especially for the grass-fed avenue. Overall I think you can do better than Hereford--period. </p><p></p><p>Red Poll has some pretty big frames look at Jovids site where he has bulls in the 6.7 range, which will mean longer finishing times in an already lengthy finishing phase for the grass-fed process and no reason to prolong it. I would like to see some carcass data on the Red Poll and a better understanding of what a WW and YW of 2 and 3 mean. I would stay away from the larger frame cattle for grass-fed.</p><p></p><p>Shorthorn again have some pretty large frames, which I personally would steer clear of with the grass-fed endeavor. Shorthorn do have some BW issues or have had in the past, but do have great growth potential at weaning and YW. The do have high milk production, which increases maintenance costs in the cow herd, but using them as a terminal sire would be fine. The only think really that bothers me about them is the Frame.</p><p></p><p>Murray Grey is really just an Angus/Shorthorn, but without the Shorthorn Frame score, which is my PICK. Their color would work really well in your extreme temps (hot and cold) and they really have some great growth, moderate frame, good MM production and really good carcass qualities. We were given 5 MG cows some years ago as a gift and I can say that the do perform well.</p><p></p><p>JS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JustSimmental, post: 835238, member: 14624"] If you are using Angus bulls on Brangus cows you already should have some pretty good carcass traits in your herd. As you know your choice in herd bull has a greater influence on growth frame and carcass traits relatively than your broodcows. Polled Hereford wouldn't be my choice mostly due to their weak growth rates, but I do like their smaller frame especially for the grass-fed avenue. Overall I think you can do better than Hereford--period. Red Poll has some pretty big frames look at Jovids site where he has bulls in the 6.7 range, which will mean longer finishing times in an already lengthy finishing phase for the grass-fed process and no reason to prolong it. I would like to see some carcass data on the Red Poll and a better understanding of what a WW and YW of 2 and 3 mean. I would stay away from the larger frame cattle for grass-fed. Shorthorn again have some pretty large frames, which I personally would steer clear of with the grass-fed endeavor. Shorthorn do have some BW issues or have had in the past, but do have great growth potential at weaning and YW. The do have high milk production, which increases maintenance costs in the cow herd, but using them as a terminal sire would be fine. The only think really that bothers me about them is the Frame. Murray Grey is really just an Angus/Shorthorn, but without the Shorthorn Frame score, which is my PICK. Their color would work really well in your extreme temps (hot and cold) and they really have some great growth, moderate frame, good MM production and really good carcass qualities. We were given 5 MG cows some years ago as a gift and I can say that the do perform well. JS [/QUOTE]
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