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<blockquote data-quote="cattle_gal" data-source="post: 61047" data-attributes="member: 643"><p>Why yes, I do look at codes and formulas. In order for me to make a program I have to know how to put formulas and equations together to correlate. And one has to know what is where if things are questionable</p><p></p><p>Simply asking a question on the accuracy weight and EPD's, which you saying can't go by it. Basically - Yeah -80 could be worse than 60 or even 50. I've seen weights and EPD's all over the place, but yet it just proves that don't expect to get a nice weight animals even though they</p><p>have a great EPD. Even though that's what sells an animal, high EPD's - that's what will give you the edge on your cattle -so it is said.. It is all to inconsistent. Gave up on EPD's after a few years of let down(with lovely EPD's and pedigrees that were the great thing in the Midwest) and went back to the consistent results - lineage actual's(weight, ultrasound, feedlot, carcass). Oh sorry to say that I have had no influence in how other producers in the state view EPD's as a let down. They nixed them after EPD's failed them, long before me. And yes a couple have become customers and have been tickled on how well they do. Just because I don't rely on EPD's doesn't mean I raise meager cattle.</p><p></p><p>I've been hinting(questioning) to you that your average that was 0 in 1977 is now adjusted to about 77. You should have known that being a follower of EPD's. </p><p></p><p>Minority breed? What a shame that you dis any breed except Angus. I think it is great that everyone has there own breed(s) they want to raise for what ever reason. Check out how many breeds there are in the US and then check out how many of them have MARC. Yeah pretty obvious you don't want to see an across breed comparison. Every breed has something to share and not be pounded into the ground. </p><p></p><p>You and I obviously do not see eye to eye on EPD's and can go on and on, you see them as wonderful devise, I see them as a thick smoke screen, so you are going to us EPD's as you always have and I will use historical and gene actuals, and when/if EPD's are consistent, reliable</p><p>and factual perhaps I will look into them again, but as for theories aren't going to work. Especially when one can not examine all the breeds/individuals across for what they are. As is my original concern to have across breeds examination.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cattle_gal, post: 61047, member: 643"] Why yes, I do look at codes and formulas. In order for me to make a program I have to know how to put formulas and equations together to correlate. And one has to know what is where if things are questionable Simply asking a question on the accuracy weight and EPD’s, which you saying can’t go by it. Basically - Yeah -80 could be worse than 60 or even 50. I’ve seen weights and EPD’s all over the place, but yet it just proves that don’t expect to get a nice weight animals even though they have a great EPD. Even though that’s what sells an animal, high EPD’s - that’s what will give you the edge on your cattle -so it is said.. It is all to inconsistent. Gave up on EPD’s after a few years of let down(with lovely EPD’s and pedigrees that were the great thing in the Midwest) and went back to the consistent results - lineage actual’s(weight, ultrasound, feedlot, carcass). Oh sorry to say that I have had no influence in how other producers in the state view EPD’s as a let down. They nixed them after EPD’s failed them, long before me. And yes a couple have become customers and have been tickled on how well they do. Just because I don’t rely on EPD’s doesn’t mean I raise meager cattle. I’ve been hinting(questioning) to you that your average that was 0 in 1977 is now adjusted to about 77. You should have known that being a follower of EPD’s. Minority breed? What a shame that you dis any breed except Angus. I think it is great that everyone has there own breed(s) they want to raise for what ever reason. Check out how many breeds there are in the US and then check out how many of them have MARC. Yeah pretty obvious you don’t want to see an across breed comparison. Every breed has something to share and not be pounded into the ground. You and I obviously do not see eye to eye on EPD’s and can go on and on, you see them as wonderful devise, I see them as a thick smoke screen, so you are going to us EPD’s as you always have and I will use historical and gene actuals, and when/if EPD’s are consistent, reliable and factual perhaps I will look into them again, but as for theories aren't going to work. Especially when one can not examine all the breeds/individuals across for what they are. As is my original concern to have across breeds examination. [/QUOTE]
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