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<blockquote data-quote="MillIronQH" data-source="post: 379961" data-attributes="member: 4658"><p>Your second paragraph explains the root of your problem with him. Mules do not forget bad or rough treatment. If the vet had taken the time for him to relax and eased up and popped him so he just laid down and took a nap you'd have been okay. The fact that you were part of it just compounds the problem. You're going to have to go back and rebuild that trust one day at a time. It may take a month or six months. I'd also suggest you get him used to being around strangers that are non-theatening until he get's past that issue.</p><p></p><p>As to the molly mule. was she ever halter broke? If not you better go hunting a real mule pro. If she was there is a safe not real easy way to fix the problem. Get her up and put her in a dry pen. No feed and no water unless she takes it from you. The time of year and the weather will be a good part of determining the time frame. Don't worry about her loosing a few pounds only that she doesn't get overly dehydrated and she not likely to let that happen herself. The longest I ever saw it take for a mule to start meeting it's handler at the gat was eight days. It's about the same with off the range mustangs. Domestic horses usually come around faster.</p><p></p><p>About your original question. </p><p></p><p>In my opinion a rider is over weight for the horse when he or she is any more then 10% overweight. Especially if that weight is undisciplined (fat). It actually, within reason, has little to do with the pound to pound ratio of rider to horse.An overweight rider simpley is not efficient. With pack horses and mules used on a regular basis the accepted ratio is 15% of the animals body weight. That's DEAD weight. It sits there and does nothing to work with the horse just shifting slightly back and forth with every step and every terrain change. An overweight rider is worse because whether he or she realizes it or not the shift is greater. Go to a rodeo and study the ruff-stock riders. You won't find anybody carrying an extra pound. If Toro turns left the whole cowboy had better go with him and not leave 20 pounds hanging out to the right. Of course long hours in the saddle on a regular basis mediates this some.Z</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MillIronQH, post: 379961, member: 4658"] Your second paragraph explains the root of your problem with him. Mules do not forget bad or rough treatment. If the vet had taken the time for him to relax and eased up and popped him so he just laid down and took a nap you'd have been okay. The fact that you were part of it just compounds the problem. You're going to have to go back and rebuild that trust one day at a time. It may take a month or six months. I'd also suggest you get him used to being around strangers that are non-theatening until he get's past that issue. As to the molly mule. was she ever halter broke? If not you better go hunting a real mule pro. If she was there is a safe not real easy way to fix the problem. Get her up and put her in a dry pen. No feed and no water unless she takes it from you. The time of year and the weather will be a good part of determining the time frame. Don't worry about her loosing a few pounds only that she doesn't get overly dehydrated and she not likely to let that happen herself. The longest I ever saw it take for a mule to start meeting it's handler at the gat was eight days. It's about the same with off the range mustangs. Domestic horses usually come around faster. About your original question. In my opinion a rider is over weight for the horse when he or she is any more then 10% overweight. Especially if that weight is undisciplined (fat). It actually, within reason, has little to do with the pound to pound ratio of rider to horse.An overweight rider simpley is not efficient. With pack horses and mules used on a regular basis the accepted ratio is 15% of the animals body weight. That's DEAD weight. It sits there and does nothing to work with the horse just shifting slightly back and forth with every step and every terrain change. An overweight rider is worse because whether he or she realizes it or not the shift is greater. Go to a rodeo and study the ruff-stock riders. You won't find anybody carrying an extra pound. If Toro turns left the whole cowboy had better go with him and not leave 20 pounds hanging out to the right. Of course long hours in the saddle on a regular basis mediates this some.Z [/QUOTE]
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