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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 6001"><p>Hi Jason. What we did was breed some PB Red Angus cows (of course homo polled) to a hetro SMOOTH polled PB Simm bull (no scurrs on either parent and we have never had scurrs out of any of our Angus before (Canadian bred, some with black in their pedigrees). We did this to get some true Simm/Angus heifers (pure on both sides).</p><p></p><p>I have heard the explanation of the horned gene masking scurrs before but believe it isn't quite that simple. Not a big deal to most of our commercial buyers as long as the scurrs are small and the quality is there. Just curious.</p><p></p><p>> Go back and re-read the history of</p><p>> the Angus breed, they were</p><p>> selected to be polled, scurs and</p><p>> horns were culled when they showed</p><p>> up. As with any genetic base, you</p><p>> can't see which ones carry a</p><p>> recessive gene. As they occur,</p><p>> they need to be culled.</p><p></p><p>> Than being said, we have never had</p><p>> a scur from our purebreds. If we</p><p>> ever did, the cow/bull would be</p><p>> culled from our program</p><p>> immediately.</p><p></p><p>> More recently, Red Angus have had</p><p>> problems with scurs coming from</p><p>> bulls raised in the States.</p><p>> Somehow it seems the bred up Red</p><p>> Angus are finding their way into</p><p>> the purebred side of the herd</p><p>> book. I have seen supposedly Red</p><p>> Angus bulls that I would swear are</p><p>> straight Gelbvieh. Red breeders</p><p>> need to have the same conviction</p><p>> of strict culling when scurs or</p><p>> horns show up, many do, but some</p><p>> let it slide as long as they don't</p><p>> get caught.</p><p></p><p>> Jason Trowbridge Southern Angus</p><p>> Farms Alberta Canada</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 6001"] Hi Jason. What we did was breed some PB Red Angus cows (of course homo polled) to a hetro SMOOTH polled PB Simm bull (no scurrs on either parent and we have never had scurrs out of any of our Angus before (Canadian bred, some with black in their pedigrees). We did this to get some true Simm/Angus heifers (pure on both sides). I have heard the explanation of the horned gene masking scurrs before but believe it isn't quite that simple. Not a big deal to most of our commercial buyers as long as the scurrs are small and the quality is there. Just curious. > Go back and re-read the history of > the Angus breed, they were > selected to be polled, scurs and > horns were culled when they showed > up. As with any genetic base, you > can't see which ones carry a > recessive gene. As they occur, > they need to be culled. > Than being said, we have never had > a scur from our purebreds. If we > ever did, the cow/bull would be > culled from our program > immediately. > More recently, Red Angus have had > problems with scurs coming from > bulls raised in the States. > Somehow it seems the bred up Red > Angus are finding their way into > the purebred side of the herd > book. I have seen supposedly Red > Angus bulls that I would swear are > straight Gelbvieh. Red breeders > need to have the same conviction > of strict culling when scurs or > horns show up, many do, but some > let it slide as long as they don't > get caught. > Jason Trowbridge Southern Angus > Farms Alberta Canada [/QUOTE]
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